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Mars Odyssey Detects Signs of Water
BBC ^ | Friday, 14 December, 2001, 16:50 GMT | David Whitehouse

Posted on 12/14/2001 2:39:25 PM PST by grimalkin

The Mars Odyssey (MO) spacecraft has made its first significant discovery: it has detected large deposits of hydrogen - possibly water - near the Red Planet's poles.

Reporting MO's preliminary observations, scientists said the first pass by the probe's neutron spectrometer had revealed evidence of the element in soil at high latitudes.

"It is big," Bill Feldman, of Los Alamos National Laboratory, said of the strength of the signal picked up by Odyssey.

The results indicate large amounts of hydrogen on the surface, a likely sign of water-ice. The observations "are precisely what you would expect for a very hydrogen-rich environment", Feldman said.

Water, water, everywhere?

American space agency (Nasa) scientists said they were excited by the initial indications of hydrogen deposits, describing the readings sent back as clearer, more definite and much earlier than had been expected.

"We were expecting that it would take many orbits to determine the presence of hydrogen," said Stephen Saunders, a MO scientist. "But we saw it the very first time."

Scientists already know that water exists on Mars; it is frozen in the polar icecaps and exists as vapour in thin clouds.

There is also good evidence that water flowed on the planet's surface in the recent past, carving out deep channels and canyons.

Mapping mission

Significant water-ice deposits easily accessible from the surface would make it much more likely that life existed at some stage on Mars.

The MO is currently tightening its orbit around the Red Planet for a mapping mission that will get underway in January. It will use a battery of instruments to survey the planet's surface.

As well as the neutron spectrometer, its gamma-ray spectrometer will chart the chemical composition of the surface. Its infrared camera will peer at areas on the night side of Mars.

"We think it will be a very exciting winter and spring," James Garvin, a Nasa scientist, told a meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco.


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To: RadioAstronomer
These are the same arguments that were made for the new world (America); too costly and no profit.

No one explored America for the sake of long-term scientific knowledge. They came over to make quick money.

41 posted on 12/15/2001 4:06:15 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: JoeSchem
And to find freedom! There are many SiFi books written about man's expansion into space for the sake of freedom, not wealth or knowlege.
42 posted on 12/15/2001 4:07:40 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Take a look at the Drake equation. Base on the laws of probability alone, gives us a way of predicting if life is out there.

Every variable in the Drake equation is an assumption. The laws of probability only come into play when you multiply the variables together, and that doesn't change the danger of the Garbage In/Garbage Out.

43 posted on 12/15/2001 4:08:21 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: JoeSchem
I do not disagree with you completely. :) However, the more we look, the more we find that the conditions and the building blocks for life exist elswhere.
44 posted on 12/15/2001 4:10:40 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
And to find freedom! There are many SiFi books written about man's expansion into space for the sake of freedom, not wealth or knowlege.

NASA will never find freedom in space. That's like expecting the post office to find a cure for cancer. It's not that they're stupid, it's just that's not their mission statement.

45 posted on 12/15/2001 4:12:56 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: JoeSchem
I wasn't even thinking of NASA when I posted that.
46 posted on 12/15/2001 4:14:26 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
I wasn't even thinking of NASA when I posted that.

Well said.

47 posted on 12/15/2001 4:15:26 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: RadioAstronomer
Yes, I did see your post regarding the Drake equation, however I am not familier with it.
49 posted on 12/15/2001 4:20:21 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: abwehr
I would certainly not use nuclear. What if life was still clinging tenaciously in that spot? Mars sample and return missions with core samples would be far less invasive. :)
50 posted on 12/15/2001 4:25:34 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Joe Hadenuf
See here:

http://www.seti-inst.edu/science/drake-bg.html

51 posted on 12/15/2001 4:29:51 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: abwehr
I agree completely!!!!!!!!!!! :)
53 posted on 12/15/2001 4:45:50 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
I helped with a Mars sample and returm proposal (a long time ago, Sigh!!!)
54 posted on 12/15/2001 4:46:40 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: abwehr
I personally could not go along with a deception like that. Finding life outside of this planet alone will have both a huge geo-political and religeous impact on our view of the cosmos we inhabit. :)
56 posted on 12/15/2001 6:37:11 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Really? What IS the probability of abiogenesis? What are the precursors necessary for this probability to hold? Do tell.
57 posted on 12/15/2001 8:36:04 PM PST by Exnihilo
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I see absolutely no reason to assume that life exists anywhere else but on Earth.
58 posted on 12/15/2001 8:37:12 PM PST by Exnihilo
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To: abwehr
Mars could be explained by liquid Carbon Dioxide

No way .... let's see CO2 liquifies at about 6-7 Terran atmospheres (6000-7000 millibars) and the guy with this scenario expects to find that that in an atmosphere with an average pressure around 6 millibars ???

59 posted on 12/15/2001 8:43:58 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: ChicagoRepublican
So when's NASA gonna help commercialize immediate space, put bases on the moon and start bases on Mars? I'm looking forward to a future of going into risky interplanatary businesses.

I've received approval to sell a limited number of McDonald's franchises on Mars. They're a steal at $750,000. This is a ground floor opportunity not to be missed. All we need to get the ball rolling is $75,000. Okay?

60 posted on 12/15/2001 8:48:46 PM PST by freebilly
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