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To: Proud2BAmerican
And of course it's possible (and actually likely) that a fertilized egg won't adhere to the wall at all even without the pill. Again most of this stuff is working with old data when the pill was much stronger (I can't emphasis enough how much the pill has changed, the pill of the 60s was about many times stronger than it is today, the changes the pill made in the womans body back then actually had a good chance of permanently sterilizing a woman if she used it for more than a few years, now women are fertile while on the pill). Women get pregnant on the pill all the time now. As I said 3/5 of the womenin my age group that I know who've been pregnant were on the pill when it happened. What the pill does now is it sets 2 days a month when the woman is fertile, usually tuesday and wednesday of the brown pill week (sometimes monday and tuesday, tuesday is almost always a fertile day).
55 posted on 12/13/2001 6:35:27 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Again most of this stuff is working with old data when the pill was much stronger (I can't emphasis enough how much the pill has changed, the pill of the 60s was about many times stronger than it is today, the changes the pill made in the womans body back then actually had a good chance of permanently sterilizing a woman if she used it for more than a few years, now women are fertile while on the pill)

Early pill dosages were so high they obliterated a woman's cycle, preventing ovulation completely. These doses also caused strokes, clots, MI's, etc, so subsequent dosages were decreased.

With decreasing doses, breakthrough ovulation increases, i.e., a woman releases an agg more often.

Yet the efficacy of the pill remains at 96-97%.

Why???

Because of postfertilization effects!!!

Postfertilization effects prevent the implantation of a fertilized egg by decreasing follopian tube motility and thinning the lining of the uterus, either preventing the fertilized egg from reaching the endometrium, or preventing its implantation once it does arrive.

Therefore, since an egg has been released, conception has occured, yet the fetus dies, this is an early chemical abortion!!!

Please, if you are going to try to sound like you understand the medicine by making such statements as you have about old dosages and side effects profiles, at least get your facts straight.

I recommend you start with this:

Postfertilization Effects [early chemical abortion effects] of Oral Contraceptives and Their Relationship to Informed Consent, from the Vol. 9 No. 2, February 2000 Archives of Family Medicine, a journal of the American Medical Association.

One more thing...you must compare apples with apples.

The synthetic progesterone in the pill is thought to have caused many of the clotting problems of the early pills.

Todays pills have only one tenth the amount of synthetic progesterone. Yet this newer third generation synthetic prosterone is thirty times stronger than that of the early pill.

Therefore, even though the dose is only one tenth, the dosage of synthetic progesterone itself is three times stronger overall than the early pill.

So the abortifacient effect is three times stronger, not less than the early pill.

if you are going to comment on these things I suggest you study up on pharmacology. Womens' lives are at stake, and babies are being aborted in the earliest stages. This is too serious an issue to make false statements like yours (although I'm sure you are not purposely stating falsehoods.)

60 posted on 12/13/2001 7:03:31 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: discostu
I understand and am aware of the changes made in the pill since the 60s. However, according to medical journals, it is still a fact that fertilized eggs are aborted that would otherwise have implanted in the uterus.
61 posted on 12/13/2001 7:10:15 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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