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Rep. Issa (R-CA) Among Targets of Jewish Terrorist Bomb Plot (mine)
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Wednesday December 12 8:03 PM ET | Sarah Tippit

Posted on 12/13/2001 1:50:03 AM PST by newzjunkey

Wednesday December 12 8:03 PM ET

Jewish Militant Arrested in L.A. Bomb Plot
By Sarah Tippit

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The chairman of the militant [TERRORST] Jewish Defense League and a follower have been arrested in an alleged plot to bomb a major Los Angeles area mosque and the office of a Republican California congressman, among other targets, federal officials said on Wednesday.

JDL Chairman Irv Rubin, 56 and group member Earl Krugel, 59, who were arrested on Tuesday night, were charged with conspiring to bomb the King Fahd Mosque in the Los Angeles suburb of Culver City, the offices of Southern California Congressman Darrell Issa, who is the [CHRISTIAN] grandson of Lebanese immigrants and the Muslim Public Affairs Council office in the Mid-Wilshire section of Los Angeles.

``Last night's arrests confirm that we meant what we said: if you cross the line from expressing your political or religious beliefs to committing violent acts against those whose beliefs are offensive to you, then you will likely end up facing federal prosecution on charges carrying extremely long prison sentences,'' said John Gordon, U.S. Attorney for California's Central District.

The two men face one count each of conspiring to destroy a building by means of an explosive and possession of a destructive device during and in relation to a violent crime, according to an affidavit filed in the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles. If convicted each could face 35 years in prison.

THIRD MAN TURNED INFORMER

Officials said the two men plotted with a third, a former JDL member, to make and detonate bombs. The third man, who was approached last October told authorities of the plot, officials said. No bombs were detonated and no one was injured.

A complaint against the two men said that Krugel told the informant the bombings were necessary because ``Arabs need a wake-up call.'' At that meeting Rubin added that the JDL needs to let people know they are ``alive in a militant way.''

The complaint added that the unnamed source was asked to photograph the Muslim Public Affairs Council and help purchase bomb components and that Krugel said he would build the bombs at his residence. The source would then place the explosives.

When the source asked Krugel how the bombings might affect human beings, he allegedly said: ``C'est la vie,'' Gordon said.

``The affidavit makes clear their primary motivation was to ... terrorize Muslims or Arabs and alert the national if not the local community to JDL's commitment to attack those targets,'' Gordon said.

The source told officials he was led to believe one bomb was to be placed in the offices of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC). He arrived at Jerry's Famous Deli in the Los Angeles suburb of Encino with 5 pounds (2.2 kg) of explosive powder in his vehicle ready for delivery to Krugel.

The MPAC, which also has a Washington, D.C. office, describes itself as a public service agency working for the civil rights of American Muslims.

TARGETS CHANGED AT MEETING

However at the deli meeting the two men said they had changed their targets and bombs were instead to be placed at the Culver City mosque and Issa's office. Gordon said he believed Issa, a Christian American of Lebanese descent, was targeted because he made statements the JDL disagreed with.

There was no specific time frame for when the bombs were to be detonated, however they were expected to be set off ``in the near future. Things were fluid,'' Gordon said.

Issa was not made aware of the plot because authorities only learned of it moments before the arrests, Gordon said.

Because the informant wore a wire when he met the two men, federal agents followed and arrested them a short time later. A search of Krugel's Reseda, California house turned up bomb making materials including caps, pipes and fuses and a dozen firearms. The bombs were adequate to cause ``considerable damage'' to the areas where they were to be detonated and possibly death to people in the vicinity, officials said.

Issa, who appeared at a press conference Wednesday flanked by several Jewish congressmen, thanked law enforcement officials for their quick action and said he had ``no way of knowing'' why he had been a target of the JDL. ``Like most Americans, my hope and wish is for a peaceful resolution to the Middle East conflict. Unfortunately, there are extremists on both sides who oppose a peaceful resolution.''

``I describe myself as an American,'' he said, when asked about his ethnic background. ``I'm an American, somebody who served in the military both as an enlisted man and as an officer, who does have an Arabic surname.'' He said he had grown up in a Jewish neighborhood.

Several Jewish congressmen stood by him and denounced the Jewish Defense League and urged prosecution of the suspects.

``This is a small group of wackos,'' said Rep. Gary Ackerman, a New York Democrat. ``They get more attention than they deserve but they can't get more punishment than they deserve.''

The JDL was founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane, who was assassinated in New York in 1990. Prior to his death he founded the extremist KACH party in Israel which advocated the expulsion of all Arabs from Israel and Israeli-occupied territories. The party was later outlawed.


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To: veronica
Don't laugh. Jim Robinson's a Mossad agent.
41 posted on 12/13/2001 5:49:58 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: newzjunkey
Rep. Issa is the Congressman of my district. He is very conservative - although I did not vote for him in the primary or the general election because he is not conservative enough for me. Let me tell you - a person without traditional values could be elected in the CA 48th District. If there are Jews plotting his destruction, they are fools, as this man is not pro-muslim or pro-terrorist. Not all arabs are muslims or terrorists. Try reading Joseph Farah's (Lebanese-American) column sometime on WorldNetDaily.
42 posted on 12/13/2001 5:51:41 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
Try reading Joseph Farah's (Lebanese-American) column sometime on WorldNetDaily.

A heroic person, a voice of sanity.

44 posted on 12/13/2001 5:56:37 AM PST by veronica
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
So far, they have a thought crime.
I guess Krugel "thought" that those bomb making materials the cops found in his house were just bagels and lox.
45 posted on 12/13/2001 5:59:34 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: newzjunkey
You really got me thinking this morning. I, a Jew, need to look around for another religion/group.

This is just too much. Six million plus Jews in the United States and we found, (if charges are true), 1-5 that are looney toones.

So I'm taking solicitations. If you want to sell me on your religion, group, fraternity, club, etc, I'm open to suggestion. (I'm also looking for new Health and Auto insurance, but I digress).

But if within your group you find that a percentage of 5/6000000+ or more is crazy, I'll stick with the Jews.

46 posted on 12/13/2001 6:05:05 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: teenager
No, they "thought" they would make a bomb(s).

I have just a few minutes before I gotta go somewhere, so I'll not be around to flame you much for a few hours. But isn't it kinda odd that a "terrorist" would take it into his head to "blow up a mosque" with powder? Hmmm? Gunpowder?? Sounds kinda childish to me. Or like a tall tale ;).

49 posted on 12/13/2001 6:28:53 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: veronica
Yes but SOME religions seem to have many more 'fanatics' than others,...

...So therefore if a terrorist plotter happens to be a Jew, we can't criticize him, because that would be anti-Semitism.

Did I get that right, veronica?

51 posted on 12/13/2001 6:49:20 AM PST by Illbay
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To: plastic
Thanks for the heads-up. This is the most detailed article I've yet seen on this subject. I hope we get more details soon.
52 posted on 12/13/2001 6:50:31 AM PST by jonatron
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To: FAXGRAM
JDL = Hate Crimes

Isa = terrorist

53 posted on 12/13/2001 6:52:40 AM PST by y2k_citizen
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To: newzjunkey
Bump...
54 posted on 12/13/2001 7:06:04 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: teenager
They "thought" they would murder some Jihad types. They "thought" they would get away with it. They "thought" that this is Israel.

People do not 'get away with it' in Israel. Unless they are under Arafat's control, that is.

55 posted on 12/13/2001 7:07:32 AM PST by veronica
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To: Skywalk
re your # 9 what anti-semitic thread would be complete without newzjunkey and candyman34?

Ah contrar on the "anti-Semetic" tag!

Mr. Rubin, like over 80% of the Jews in what is now called Israel, is neither Semetic or of Semetic Origin.

Mr Rubin, like most of these people, is of Eastern European origin with no connection of blood heritage, other than Faith, to Palestine.

The Semetic Jews, in what is now called Israel, are a clear minority among the regions Jewry, and, yes, do have racial roots extending back to the early Bronze age as do their Palestinian neighbors.

The Eastern European Jews have literally hijacked the region based on this connection of "faith". Suggest reading either the encyclopedia Americana or Brittanica for a clear summary of this point with other respected works available for detail.

This "anti-semetic" thing is a bogus straw man, created by Zionists, to give credence to their invasion of Palestine beginning in 1947.

Being anti Jewish may or may not be justified in your post and those you indentify there but the anti-semetic tag is clearly not.

56 posted on 12/13/2001 7:10:49 AM PST by rmvh
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To: newzjunkey
Several Jewish congressmen stood by him and denounced the Jewish Defense League and urged prosecution of the suspects. ``This is a small group of wackos,'' said Rep. Gary Ackerman, a New York Democrat. ``They get more attention than they deserve but they can't get more punishment than they deserve.''

Succinctly put and sets the example of how American Moslem leadership should have responded to every single Islamic terrorist attack on Americans going back many years.

59 posted on 12/13/2001 7:20:44 AM PST by a_witness
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