Posted on 12/10/2001 4:53:45 PM PST by Mighty Pen
I didn't accuse you, or the people on "these threads" of anything, except some spurious arguments.
Please answer this question honestely. If you knew an unborn child was going to become the next Hitler or Charles Manson, wouldn't you insist it not be aborted, even knowing that?
I said, all of the "programs" for children that these Christians support and promote, while for the most part, beneficial, they do not at all address the actual situations of most of the desparate women who have abortions. This does no say, nor is it intended to imply any fault in the programs or effort of Christians to help those considering or having had abortions. The fact is, there are more women having abortions than any Christian programs are ever going to be able to reach, many women are not interested in the programs of Christians and are even antagonistic toward them, and many women are in places far removed from any Christian programs. These are just the sad facts.
If you are really opposed to abortion, a calm reasonable approach will work wonders in convincing others.
Hank
When you have given the government the power to make decision for you about how your children are to be dealt with, they will use that power to force your children and grandchildren to have abortions against their will, and you will have been the one responsible for the government having that power.
You, "Christians," have no power today becasue you have swapped the power of your God and prayer for the power of guns and government. You have made the wrong choice, and will pay for it.
Hank
Satire is above some people's reading comprehension level.
Are you against blasphemy? Are you against someone rejecting Salvation?
Hank
That was not my argument. Go read the original article. I was answering that.
Hank
This may not be logic spewing forth from my brain, but it's the way I think, so sorry if it doesn't make sense.
I don't understand this "privacy" point. It's not a "right to privacy" to me personally. I mean, aren't many unethical acts done in the privacy of my own home or someone elses home. So if I beat my child to a bloody pulp, can I use the "privacy" argument with a judge. "This child is "my property" and I did this act in the "privacy" of my own home. You have no right to tell me what to do, you Christian zeolot, trying to put your morality on me"! Does a man have a right to "privately" rape a woman? Does someone have a right to "privately" murder someone in the woods when no one is looking?
It seems to me that this is not a religious issue at all. Sure plenty of religious Christians are against abortion. I do believe there is a God, I believe Jeusus Christ is his son, and he was the messiah. I believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God. IF, I should wake up tomorrow, and decide the whole premiss of God, Jesus & Bible is bogus, I would still be pro-life. It's an ETHICAL and MORAL issue. Plenty of non-religious people have morals and ethics.
Sorry. I haven't had enough coffee yet this morning. None of that came out right. I have no idea what I'm trying to say.
IF?, we are not dealing with IFs and precognition - we are dealing in scientific/biological fact. Just because we are Christians does not mean we are addle-brained.
"all of the "programs" for children that these Christians support and promote, while for the most part, beneficial, they do not at all address the actual situations of most of the desparate women who have abortions."
Is this something you read in The NY Times, (or from your public high school teacher)? It is obviously not something you know from experience, because it is UNTRUE!
Yeah, right. Isn't everyone? You are most certainly pro-abortion rights.
The statement of your being "anti-abortion" is hollow and utterly useless. At best, yours is a game of semantics; at worst, a Clintonesque deception. You're only telling us you don't wish an abortion on anyone. (Except perhaps me, or people like me.)
Just as I'm not anti-amputation (I believe amputations should remain legal and safe), you are clearly pro-abortion.
Yeah yeah yeah and you don't believe the Holocaust happened, you don't believe we went to the moon and you don't believe Bush won the election.
Just trying to prove his point. hehehehe
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