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1 posted on 12/10/2001 6:54:18 AM PST by Junior
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Bump.
2 posted on 12/10/2001 6:55:01 AM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
LOLOL!
3 posted on 12/10/2001 6:59:38 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
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To: Junior
Obviously, the first language must have a designer: God.

And obviously the first language just popped up, it didn't develop slowly. And the reason new words come up is because god isn't perfect and didn't make a good enough language at first. "word is born".

Linguistics paints a picture of languages increasing in complexity over time. But the second law of thermodynamics says that the universe must move toward INCREASING ENTROPY, which means that languages should become LESS complex over time, not more. Thus the Linguisticist THEORY of language origins is FALSIFIED.

Isn't increasing entropy => more complex languages, ie, exactly the opposite? oh well.

4 posted on 12/10/2001 7:22:37 AM PST by gfactor
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To: Junior
Imagine the grief this author must have gone through as a kid with a name like that?
6 posted on 12/10/2001 7:32:56 AM PST by jmc813
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To: Junior
But the second law of thermodynamics says that the universe must move toward INCREASING ENTROPY, which means that languages should become LESS complex over time, not more. Thus the Linguisticist THEORY of language origins is FALSIFIED.

This kind of grotesque misunderstanding and misuse of thermodynamics by creationists is really irritating. It is almost like this person is being intentionally stupid. First, higher system complexity generally equals higher entropy (though this isn't even a direct relationship), all other things being equal, so the author doesn't even understand the terms. Second, total entropy increases in any CLOSED system. Note that this is why increased complexity in organisms on earth does not violate the same rule; huge amounts of energy are expended (from the sun, etc) to create relatively tiny decreases in entropy and fortunately we have lots of energy to waste. Even the act of constructing concepts within your brain (an entropy reducing function) actually generates 10^8 more entropy than is reduced when you take everything into account. The only way the 2nd law of thermodynamics is ever "violated" is when people confuse an open system with a closed one.

7 posted on 12/10/2001 7:46:36 AM PST by tortoise
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To: Junior
Clearly, language is the result of intelligent design. ;-)
10 posted on 12/10/2001 8:19:52 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: Junior
Damn those godless, cunning linguists.
15 posted on 12/10/2001 8:34:34 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: Junior
Are you making the case that the development of language is analogious to the development of genetic code?
16 posted on 12/10/2001 8:38:22 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Junior
Bump
17 posted on 12/10/2001 8:46:22 AM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: CapandBall
Ping!

Note that "Ping" obviously evolved from the earlier form "Bump" through Bump-Bums-Buns-Bunk-Punk-Pink-Ping. Some of these forms are not even extinct. I see both "Bunk" and "Punk" used regularly on this very Forum!

23 posted on 12/10/2001 10:39:26 AM PST by m1911
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To: Junior
Fantastic discovery, junior! I love it!!
24 posted on 12/11/2001 3:38:38 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Junior
But can you tell me the real reason orientals have trouble pronouncing the letter "L"?

I'm not bashing orientals there is an actual reason why!

25 posted on 12/11/2001 3:57:54 PM PST by 100%FEDUP
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