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To: Libertina
has been a longtime defender of gun rights (Imagine, an attorney general upholding the constitution.)

Don't be fooled by Ashcroft's present policy statements.
#1. Ashcroft basically told the congress that he could not violate present brady law.
2. He then intimated that "if" the law was changed, he would then be able to invade peoples privacy.
3. Senators then present a bill in "responce" to the A.G.s' comments.
I think it's called "hagaillian" politics, or something like that. a. create a problem. b. introduce the desired solution. b(1) the ends justify the means.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
As governor of Missouri, Ashcroft vetoed Concealed Carry Legislation on more than one ocassion.
Do NOT be fooled by his political posturing.
He Wanted the Power to circumvent brady law restrictions on using NICS records to investigate "trouble makers."
He now may very well get it.

Without EXPLICIT provisions limiting NICS checks to non-citizen suspect terrorists, and provisions limiting the time this exception will be allowed, and a Fully Explicit Termination condition, this legislation will be ABUSED by the A.G. office, Justice dept., and government in general.

18 posted on 12/08/2001 10:10:36 PM PST by Drammach
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To: Drammach
No firearms were used in the 9/11 attack. Terrorists do NOT buy firearms through normal channels, thus avoiding any paper trails that could lead to their apprehension - in fact, they rarely employ firearms at all. Why bother? Any attempt by the demoncRATS is mindless pap and anti-American. These gun-grabbers should rot in hell along with Atta and the other dead bombers. And the sooner the better!
20 posted on 12/08/2001 10:16:09 PM PST by szweig
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To: Drammach
Gee, didn't Ashcroft just issue a letter as Attorney General indicating the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right/ Didn't he do that specifcally to refute the Left's contention that it was not an individual right? Didn't Ashcroft catch all kinds of hell from the gun grabbers but refused to retract his opinion?

Hardly sounds like an anti to me ....

27 posted on 12/08/2001 10:41:43 PM PST by jimkress
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To: Drammach
Don't be fooled by Ashcroft's present policy statements.
What's to fool. How many political parties do we have?
Why it's now essentially one big party -- RepublicRats-- headed by big rats who incrementally nibble away at our great republic's constitution.
41 posted on 12/08/2001 11:38:08 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Drammach
I lived in Missouri for 30 years and can't remember concealed carry ever being passed, much less vetoed. Can you fill me in more specifically?
81 posted on 12/09/2001 7:53:36 AM PST by goorala
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To: Drammach
Without EXPLICIT provisions limiting NICS checks to non-citizen suspect terrorists, and provisions limiting the time this exception will be allowed, and a Fully Explicit Termination condition, this legislation will be ABUSED by the A.G. office, Justice dept., and government in general
It will be violated with or withOUT provisions...sigh I just can't understand why gun grabbers want to do this, or why the administration is so wobbly on these issues. Don't they know that I can only be upset about so many things in one day? :l
91 posted on 12/09/2001 10:05:34 AM PST by Libertina
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To: Drammach
[this legislation will be ABUSED by the A.G.]

Exactly, and we won't have to wait for a democrat AG to abuse it. Ashcroft is no different from any other career politician, except that he's an appointed bureaucrat at present.

103 posted on 12/10/2001 4:24:47 AM PST by Twodees
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