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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: ravingnutter
Thanks for the references.

What's not clear to me -- if anyone recalls -- is, if she was appointed in 1980, shouldn't her term have expired in 1986? Surely Reagan wouldn't have reappointed her. Was there a hiatus in her "service" from 1986 until Clinton dredged her up again in 1993?

101 posted on 12/07/2001 9:02:56 AM PST by maryz
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To: kezekiel
I read her term will expire several days after Dubya's first term in office.
102 posted on 12/07/2001 9:05:26 AM PST by StarFan
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To: JeanS
It is obviously time to disband this useless "commission".
With partisan hacks and lackeys like Berry running things, it is clear that nothing worthwhile can ever come of such a worthless entity.
Save the taxpayers a few bucks and send them all home.
103 posted on 12/07/2001 9:05:34 AM PST by TheGrimReaper
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To: eastforker
Agree we all need to just relax....W will outfox her...she crossed a line today....just watch..

Ms. Berry will not know what hit her....

104 posted on 12/07/2001 9:07:06 AM PST by Dog
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To: Let's Roll
A check of other Web sites Fox, ABC, MSNBC,Washington Post and even the dreaded Salon shows this issue off the radar screen. Are we making a lot of hay out of essentially a petty office squabble?
105 posted on 12/07/2001 9:07:55 AM PST by baltoga
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To: SAMWolf
disband the Commission

I'm all for that. Anything that dismantles a governmental agency, I'm generally for.

I try to personally visit my state senator and representative every year. The one message I deliver consistently from year to year, is that they should find some facet of government and get rid of it. My example is agricultural assistance agents for urban / suburban counties. Having a agent of government around to tell me what to do to my soil to grow better fescue is not a proper funtion of government, but a function of Pikes Nurseries, the Home Depot garden department, etc.

106 posted on 12/07/2001 9:08:19 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: JeanS
Dubya should do to this commission what The Gipper did to the illegally striking air traffic controllers. It set the tone for his presidency and let all international foes know not to F with him.
107 posted on 12/07/2001 9:08:54 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: shezza
ping...
108 posted on 12/07/2001 9:08:54 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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To: Carolina
Queen of the Zulus

Isn't "Queen of the Mau-Maus" more like it?

109 posted on 12/07/2001 9:09:53 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: baltoga
This is far from a petty office squabble. The symbolic value alone is immense.
110 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: goldstategop
Her power and ego became inflated during the Clinton Gore years. The Democrats pandered to her and used race repeatedly as an election tool. She is the end result of an abusive Democratic Party that was allowed to use racism and class envy as a way to inflame minority voters. The very same people using James Byrd to get politicians elected are responsible for this silly ass of a woman. Bad behavior and ugly public displays should not be handled with kid gloves. She should be chastised in public and fast.
111 posted on 12/07/2001 9:12:12 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: lady lawyer
Now you're turning on the way-back machine.

That was a really bad group--makes Mugabe's savages, the "veterans", look like pikers.

112 posted on 12/07/2001 9:13:04 AM PST by VMI70
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To: Seeking the truth
... never realized how really evil Demonrats are until what I saw with my own eyes down here in Palm Beach County last in November 2000.

My screen name comes from a similar experience, albeit much earlier. I started drifting from the 'rats when they embraced a known Liar as their party leader back in '92. Now I am happy to be a...
Recovering Democrat.

113 posted on 12/07/2001 9:14:45 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: JeanS
During a Meeting of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights,...
Fri, Dec 07 09:52 AM
During a meeting of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Peter Kirsanow, center, who President Bush appointed to the commission, sits in the audience looking on Friday, Dec. 7, 2001, in Washington, as his lawyers Robert Kelner, left, and Bobby Burchfield, right, confer, after Kirsanow was denied a seat, or even to be recognized by the commission. Photo by Kenneth Lambert (AP)
114 posted on 12/07/2001 9:16:48 AM PST by gumbo
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To: Steven W.
Can we get a copy of that???
115 posted on 12/07/2001 9:17:20 AM PST by PortugeeJoe
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To: JeanS
I wouldn't put a moment's trust in Nadler or Conyers. Tell Berry she can take her ball and go home if she wants, but she can't be Queen of the Commission anymore.
116 posted on 12/07/2001 9:17:45 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: lady lawyer
Isn't "Queen of the Mau-Maus" more like it?

I was thinking "Queen of the Bow-Wow's"...Man, she FUGLY!

117 posted on 12/07/2001 9:18:12 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: JeanS
USCCR and the U.S. Congress
Subject line: Information Please

In light of Mary Frances Berry's highly irrational remarks to the President's Personal Counsel, today's public humiliation of the President's appointee at her behest, to say nothing of her shocking conduct of the Florida hearings and her post-hearing interviews ("I can do anything I want ..."), it is clear that she is easily the most dysfunctional individual in government today and should be forced to resign immediately. Who at the USCCR and Congress has the professional integrity to see that a more rational and responsible commissioner replaces her without delay? I'm sure she will have no trouble receiving the best psychiatric care a fat, federal pension can buy.

CH
Tucson, Arizona

118 posted on 12/07/2001 9:18:23 AM PST by Havisham
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To: baltoga
Fox covered this last night. None of the other networks touched it, as far as I know, but I would bet dollars to doughnuts they were ready with cameras if W had sent marshals (as Ms. Berry dared him to do).

Amazingly, she is under the impression that hs is a stupid cowboy. Foolish, foolish woman.

Since nothing happened that could be shown on television to the detriment of President Bush, there will be no coverage of this. There will continue to be no coverage unless Ms. Berry manages to manufacture a scene, which I am sure she will attempt. The President is very smart on this and will not take the bait.

Now I am sure some Bush-bashers will come along and tell us he backed down, or he is a wuss, or he is really a liberal, yada, yada. Bill Kristol will write a column criticizing him, and no doubt Larry Klaymamn will file a lawsuit against him.

I am always fascinated at how he solves things...often not in the usual manner.

119 posted on 12/07/2001 9:18:56 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: ken5050

Look for the GOP to retake the Senate and pick up 10+ seats in the House

Do you have any hard information, or is this wishful thinking? I am thinking the GOP loses the House and breaks even in the Senate - but that is based on my bright, sunny pessimism about whether the GOP can do anything right.

120 posted on 12/07/2001 9:19:06 AM PST by BruceS
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