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(Breaking!)INS Detainee Anthrax Suspect (4 Men All Foriegn!! Not "Lone American" Right-Winger!
The Register-Citizen ^ | December 06, 2001 | TRACY KENNEDY

Posted on 12/06/2001 3:31:03 PM PST by t-shirt

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To: Spirit Of Truth
She 'was walking around healthy'
By KEN MORITSUGU   Knight Ridder Newspapers

NEW YORK -- Kathy Nguyen, who wore a different hat every day, and remembered her neighbors' birthdays and favorite holidays, was gone. Just like that.

Although the 61-year-old Vietnamese immigrant had no known link to intentionally poisoned mail, she contracted inhalation anthrax and died within days.

"This is a lady who, two weeks ago, was walking around healthy," Anna Rodriguez, 47, a neighbor at 1031 Freeman St., said Wednesday. "You know, her biggest complaint was her feet, that she had feet problems, but besides that, she was a happy woman."

Nguyen worked as a supply clerk at Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital in New York. No one knows how she contracted anthrax. As far as anyone knows, she had no relatives. Only neighbors, who became friends.

"She stayed to herself," Rodriguez said. "She lived in a community primarily of Hispanic people, but she was from Vietnam.

"Everybody loved her dearly. She lived here over 20 years and she was part of the neighborhood. Everybody knew her, some better than others, but everybody had seen her and knew that that was Kathy. That's why we're all stunned right now."

Neighbors said Nguyen came to the United States from Vietnam in 1977 and was divorced by the time she moved into her South Bronx apartment in 1982. A son, who lived with her ex-husband, died in a car crash six years ago.

There were also vague accounts of a cousin in Seattle and a brother who lived in France. But no one saw these people. When neighbors ran into Kathy Nguyen, she was, inevitably, alone.

She seemed to adopt her neighbors as an extended family, sometimes making them meals of won ton soup and crispy duck. She gave them sweaters and watches for Christmas.

They said her life focused almost entirely on work and home, a one-bedroom apartment she kept immaculate, paying $700 a month rent and taking pride in her houseplants.

Nguyen was very self-sufficient, landlord Marie Castro said. That she called the building supervisor to take her to the hospital was surprising.

"For her to ask, she must have been very ill. She truly felt she had a very bad case of the flu."

On Wednesday, Rodriguez appeared on "Good Morning America" and asked that anyone related to her friend come forward to help prepare the grave.

By Wednesday night, no one had. Ellen Borakove, a spokeswoman for the city medical examiner's office, said Nguyen's body would be kept until someone claimed it. She also said Nguyen's death had been ruled a homicide.

If no family members come forward within a few days, the residents of 1031 Freeman St. have a plan. Rodriguez said they would pass the hat and hire a funeral director. They will do the job themselves.

The Associated Press and The New York Times contributed to this story


161 posted on 12/07/2001 7:31:24 AM PST by stlnative
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Thanks for your post #127, SOT.
162 posted on 12/07/2001 7:36:35 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Spirit Of Truth
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NEW YORK (AP) - The 61-year-old woman who died of inhalation anthrax yesterday fled Vietnam 24 years ago, leaving behind her possessions and relatives and adopting her Bronx neighbors as her extended family.

Kathy Nguyen came to the United States with the aid of a soldier who was a New York City police officer, co-workers and neighbors said.

She settled in the Bronx and found a job as a hospital stockroom clerk.

She held similar jobs throughout the past two decades, spending the past 10 years at the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital. She was working there when she was diagnosed with the city’s first case of inhalation anthrax. She died yesterday at Lenox Hill Hospital.

Friends and neighbors said Nguyen always had a ready smile and time for a friendly exchange. She also would show appreciation for the little jobs they did for her with small gifts.

"She had a very sweet, low voice. She was a happy person. All the time, she greeted you, she had a smile," a neighbor, Yvette Lebron, said.

Nguyen lived alone, but neighbors said she had a lot of friends. Her only son died in a car crash years ago, neighbors said, and her ex-husband, an American, is believed to live in Germany.

Eduardo Rivera, 19, an upstairs neighbor, remembered Nguyen as a friendly woman who always stopped to ask him about his life.

"I saw her in the elevator most of the time," Rivera said. "She would ask me if I’m still in school, if I’m working.

"She’d come around for holidays and Christmas, and she might bring a little something upstairs for us."

Nguyen loved to shop and cook and was known for making Thanksgiving dinner for neighbors - homemade baked salmon, won-ton soup and crispy duck.

Recently Nguyen started talking about moving in with a co-worker, Lebron said, "because it was hard for her to save money and she never took a vacation. She struggled. She made sure she was on top of her bills."

Lebron, who often sat on a bench outside the building, frequently greeted Nguyen on her way to and from work. A petite woman, Nguyen dressed neatly, with an Asian flair to her outfits.

"She wasn’t a person who would go out. She was a home person," Lebron said.

Late last week, Nguyen complained to her neighbors about respiratory trouble that she thought was just a cold.

Hattie O’Neil, who works in admitting at the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital, said Nguyen was "always very pleasant and always jovial, but I saw her on Friday, she wasn’t herself. She was pale and all bundled up."

Thomas Rich, who also works in admitting, said Nguyen accepted equipment that came into the hospital and made sure it got to the right office. "Almost everyone in the hospital came in contact with her," he said.

Her neighbors said she worked afternoons and nights, going to work by subway and coming home close to midnight.

"We don’t know how Kathy got this," said Anna Rodriquez, manager of Nguyen’s building.

"It’s not like Kathy traveled a lot or visited a lot of people. She was a person who concentrated on work and home, work and home," she said.

Edith Navedo, a former neighbor, told The New York Times that Nguyen had told people she came from a well-to-do family in Vietnam, that her mother was a teacher and her uncle rented rooms to U.S. soldiers during the war. She spoke of a beautiful house by the water in Vietnam.

Not long after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in Washington and New York, Lebron and some friends were outside discussing their fears. Nguyen happened along and joined in. "She said the best thing that everyone could hold onto is to go to church and pray," Lebron said.


11/02/01 1:39 AM
Anthrax victim known as kind woman

NEW YORK (AP) - She lived so quietly that few neighbors ever saw her apartment. But the mysterious anthrax death of a Vietnamese immigrant has revealed a legacy of simple kindness that touched many in her adopted homeland.

An FBI Hazardous Materials Response Team member gets supplies, Thursday, from a truck parked outside of the apartment building where hospital worker Kathy Nguyen lived, in the Bronx borough of New York. Federal and city authorities examined Nguyen's apartment Thursday, for clues to how she was exposed to the anthrax that killed her Wednesday.
(AP Photo/Suzanne Plunkett)

From the electric heater she bought for a neighbor to the Vietnamese soup she made for her friend downstairs, Kathy T. Nguyen's life was marked with kind gestures, small and large.

Nguyen, a 61-year-old hospital worker, died Wednesday, just three days after checking herself into a hospital. With no relatives yet claiming her body, her neighbors, employer and landlord want to make sure she is properly mourned and buried.

Even the local elementary school, where she had no children, may conduct a memorial for her.

``We feel we'd like to contribute to the whole celebration of her life,'' Public School 66 Principal Marcia Gonzalez said. Many children lived in Nguyen's building and ``need that sense of closure.''

The hospital where Nguyen worked as a stockroom clerk will hold a memorial service as well. ``She touched many people's lives here,'' said Barbara Wrede, spokeswoman for the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital.

Scott Jaffee, owner of Metropolitan Realty Group, which manages Nguyen's apartment complex, said he would help with funeral expenses if needed.

The network of acquaintances and neighbors in her apartment building are determined to make sure that Nguyen, whom they knew as a devout Roman Catholic and a cheerful if private friend, is buried with appropriate recognition.

``We do plan to do something to bury her,'' said Yvette Lebron. ``She won't be left in the morgue.''

On Thursday, police and federal investigators traipsed through the courtyard where friends erected a small shrine with carnations, candles and a Virgin Mary statue beneath Nguyen's third-floor window. Investigators, still trying to learn how Nguyen contracted the deadly anthrax, were retracing her steps.

Nguyen's friends painted a portrait of a low-key woman whose integration into the fabric of New York was the very essence of the hardworking immigrant story.

But hers also is the story of a caring life - her thoughtful gifts to an upstairs family at Christmas, her home-cooked delicacies and the invariable call to her landlord to convey holiday wishes.

``She'd come to my house. She'd bring something to eat. She cooked soup for me,'' said downstairs neighbor Josefa Richardson. Though Richardson's English is limited and Nguyen spoke no Spanish they became friends when both lived on East 86th Street in the late 1970s.

One Christmas, Nguyen showed up with a brand new electric heater for another neighbor whose apartment was cold, Aida Torres. ``She was a beautiful loving caring person,'' Torres said Thursday.

Divorced, Nguyen had a son whom friends said died several years ago in an auto accident. She never talked much about him, or her ex-husband. Richardson said she met a boyfriend years back, and there was a cousin who came to visit once. Richardson said Nguyen rarely spoke of her past, but said she had worked at the U.S. Embassy in Saigon.

Immigration and Naturalization Service records show she entered the United States in San Diego on May 4, 1975.

Richardson last saw her friend Oct. 25 en route to work.

``She told me, 'I'm tired, Josefa,''' said Richardson, who urged her to call in sick. Nguyen wanted to tough it out. ``I'll call you on Saturday,'' Richardson said.

On Saturday there was no answer. Nguyen was so sick by Sunday that her building super rushed her to the hospital.

Friday, November 2, 2001

163 posted on 12/07/2001 7:53:03 AM PST by stlnative
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To: golitely
You're right:

For the Clintons, it was always about power--their power of course--and money was just the vehicle that got them there. Once you understand that about them, many of the other "mysteries" connected with them begin to make sense.

164 posted on 12/07/2001 9:11:50 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: FreedomPoster
The way it appeared to me is that the bail was for the only charges brought so far, which weren't charges related to the anthrax attack. Other charges may have been made by now, or so I hope.
165 posted on 12/07/2001 11:19:22 AM PST by Twodees
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To: muawiyah
The whole story of Janco and the two Pakistanis is suspicious -- it doesn't hang together consistently. Either it's bogus, or possibly it's true but there are some important missing pieces.
166 posted on 12/07/2001 1:05:14 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: meridia
I'm not very confident with what we know about this incident ... yet. But I do hope all the facts will be known - soon.
167 posted on 12/07/2001 8:21:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mitchell
Thanks for the heads up!
168 posted on 12/07/2001 8:22:10 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks. If you happen to hear that a MAJOR arrest is made in the Anthrax Letters, please email me. I didn't discover this thread for a couple hours, not until quite late last night, and was so tired I didn't read it in entirety. I thought they had it cracked. I was so euphoric last night, lolol.....
169 posted on 12/07/2001 8:25:05 PM PST by meridia
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To: meridia
If I'm online when the arrest is announced, I'll flag you! Hugs!!!
170 posted on 12/07/2001 9:48:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: freekitty
I know some of those FBI guys. It's in their jeans genes to be swayed by the winds of power, influence and affluence. They're happy to stick it to punks, irrespective of any so-called "facts", just as Clinton set the pace for considered his critics smearably inferior.

Clinton didn't make 'em, he appointed the political hack prosecutors (remember from Day One at the DOJ?) and people like Kallstrom and Hall, those who sniffed out their own kind from lower ranks and promoted them. The common element among these is a derived pleasure (benefit) derived from doing things for their political friends and benefactors.

There's no quick rehabilitation for these guys. A similarly effective DOJ housecleaning that wasn't going to raise a media furor (for a Republican) takes time. I think Dubya can afford (more aggressively now) to spend some of his newfound political capital reserves (war successes and now Ashcroft v. Leaky) to hasten the firings at the DOJ/FBI and even CIA.

HF

172 posted on 12/08/2001 6:49:28 AM PST by holden
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To: cake_crumb; Alamo-Girl; expose; AMERIKA; Black Jade; sarcasm; B4Ranch; It'salmosttolate...
The feds and media seem to have ignored killed this story by completely by ignoring it and pretending the arrests never happened.

I wondered if these guys are being given new secret identities and being put back into the population???---- where they can commit more terror.

On November 22, 2001 the Washington post ran a story that many of the suspects/material witnesses were being given new identities for the feds in "hopes" they would co-operate etc. And a few days ago Ashcroft decided to offer terror-linked individuals US citizenship.---but what do you expect from a guy who refuses to obey a subpoena from Congress ordering him to turn over all the criminal evidence against Bill Clinton from various investigations???

173 posted on 12/08/2001 10:18:53 AM PST by t-shirt
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To: Black Jade; archy
The feds definately weren't trying to created this story---no one else reported it---and had there not been court cases involved I don't think I'd have even found this one.

I don't know if even the paper would have even found out about it, without the court proceedings.

174 posted on 12/08/2001 10:21:44 AM PST by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
I never thought the anthrax attack was an American. I think it was totally sponsorer by OBL and SHussein.
175 posted on 12/08/2001 10:26:07 AM PST by Salvation
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To: t-shirt
How about the kicker, they want to release one of these four on bond. That's right, they want to release him. As soon as his attorney raises the $5k for the $50k bond, he's out.

This individual was friends with two of the known hijacker/bombers, had videos that promoted suicide missions and was known to support at least part of their objectives.

You tell me, is there a problem with this intention to let him out on bail?

176 posted on 12/08/2001 11:10:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: aristeides
I honestly thought that Kathy Nguyen's divorced husband (now deceased, as well as her son) was first reported as being middle eastern in nationality ... wondered at the time why there was no follow up to this angle.

Since my only two sources for news are FR and FNC, I also have wondered why I have not heard this more here ... as so many use the same sources as I do.
177 posted on 12/08/2001 11:34:28 AM PST by AKA Elena
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To: AKA Elena
I think I read someplace that Kathy Nguyen's husband was Somali, and that their son died in an accident in the Middle East.

The Middle Eastern terrorists apparently have a practice of marrying middle-aged women in Western countries. There's a good chance one of these four had a relationship with Kathy Nguyen.

178 posted on 12/08/2001 11:41:36 AM PST by aristeides
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To: brigette; Howlin
I see that the AP article you posted says Nguyen's divorced husband is an American living in Germany. Doesn't necessarily exclude Middle Eastern descent.
179 posted on 12/08/2001 11:45:45 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Standing Wolf
Deport all the illegal aliens immediately!"

Why would you want to deport these people so they can slip through the cracks AGAIN!

This silly talk makes NO sense.The way the INS works, (or doesn't)They could come through the revolving door again in a week.

180 posted on 12/08/2001 11:47:35 AM PST by FixitGuy
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