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To: kjam22
Whether literal or symbolic... the message is the same. Whether his name was Adam or George makes no difference. What matters is that God has used Genesis to tell us of our state, our relationship with him. Did he use actual events to tell us.... or did he use a parable about Adam and Eve makes no difference. The reality is He has told us of our state and prepared a way of reconciliation

Your theology is seriously flawed friend. If original sin is not real, did God just make it up? Did God just one day say - I have decided that man has fallen and will be sinful from now on, and I will make up this fake story to support it? Did God just on a whim decide to make people with "innate sin natures" or as Paul the Apostle said, do we get them from Adam? (REad romans 5:12)

Why did Paul believe Adam was real and that original sin was real? I think you need to get on your knees and ask God to show you the Truth - then you should pick up your bible and allow the Holy Spirit to teach you.

133 posted on 12/06/2001 8:44:43 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
You keep missing the part where I state that I believe in a literal interpretation.... I assume you are just missing that part.

But to the person who says that they read Genesis and decide that Mankind is fallen because of mankind's own choices (same as I stated earlier). I say they are exactly correct.

137 posted on 12/06/2001 8:48:43 AM PST by kjam22
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To: exmarine
Indeed. If there was no original sin (as Muslims, oddly enough, considering all their stringent rules, believe) salvation, and Jesus, are moot points, for not only was Jesus a blad faced liar, but his work on the cross and resurection were equally moot. And let us consider that there is sin, but it did not come from man's actions. Did God purposely create it? Or let us suppose someone, somewhere acted out the first sin (funny that God wouldn't care to reveal it to us, isn't it?), but it wasn't Adam and Eve, but instead perhaps (following a rather thiestic God controlled evolutionary view here) some primordal human that broke out of simian state. This would make Jesus a liar, again, for he plainly stated the fact of Adam's sin.

In sum, if you proffess to be a Christian, ie saved by Christ in the most literal sense of the meaning, it is my opinion, and I think Scripture and simple reasoning back me up here, that in order to accept salvation and Jesus, you must accept original sin coming ffrom the first humans. This game of lets play cut and paste with the Scriptures is absurb. How am I to discern what is truth and what is not? Is salvation truth? How can you prove it is and other portions are not? Do you merely discount supernatural accounts? Do you stick only to the parts you like?

146 posted on 12/06/2001 8:57:18 AM PST by Cleburne
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