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The court said people with no intention of raising livestock could still bid on the 10-year grazing leases, which cover about 10 percent of the state.

The watermelon orgs have millions of dollars they have stolen out of your pockets through tax deductions and charities. The ranchers and farmers are a target.

1 posted on 12/05/2001 2:52:29 AM PST by brityank (brityank@FReepmail)
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Charles "Doc" Lane, lobbyist for the Arizona Cattle Growers' Association, said the new rules could put so many ranchers out of business that when environmentalists' 10-year grazing leases expire there won't be anyone else around to bid on them. Lane and many ranchers fear that if activists "cherry-pick" the grazing leases with water, they could dry up entire ranching operations and force long-standing rural landowners to sell their private property to developers.

Here's a salute to all of the morons who think that the 'Services Work Model' can retain America's industries and self-sufficiency breadbasket through NAFTA and GATT.

Get ready for $10/loaf; $20/milk; and $50/steak.

2 posted on 12/05/2001 3:00:11 AM PST by brityank
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Forest Guardians counters that it's not interested in wiping out ranching, nor does it intend to profit from the leases it acquires.

Beware the unintended consequences. Grazing land is taken out of service - the ranchers have to overage the parcels they are using to keep their volume up. Maybe some ranchers go out of business and sell their ranches to developers.

Also, won't this effect the tax base of the local governments since the land will not be in any type of production?

5 posted on 12/05/2001 7:30:12 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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So what else is new? We let them get away with it for all these years. Those of us who called them totalitarians in the beginning were radical nay sayers, of course, now they call us "tin foil hat" wearers.

Bottom line, we get what we deserve whether it be by actions or just mere acceptance.

8 posted on 12/05/2001 8:47:23 AM PST by poet
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Although the State Land Department still has some leeway in determining who's the "best" bidder, environmentalists say it will now have to prove why livestock is better for the land than a period of non-grazing.

Easy enough. The plants will find far less nutritional value in the environmental BS than there is in the Bovine variety.

17 posted on 12/10/2001 12:51:29 AM PST by Smokin' Joe
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Environmentalists say the decision will let them... end a subsidy for "cowboy socialists" that shortchanges the state's public school system.

I wonder how it shortchanges the state's public school system without accidentally shortchanging the state's tax collection bureaucracy and the salaries of the state legislators as well. I would not have thought that cows were that smart, or that opposed to children.

30 posted on 12/11/2001 11:16:37 PM PST by Nick Danger
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36 posted on 12/15/2001 2:28:56 AM PST by backhoe
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Grazing cattle are like locust on the landscape. Causing untold damage to native vegetation. Do it on private land.
38 posted on 12/15/2001 2:53:33 AM PST by Osprey
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