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To: kattracks
Let the Arab states cut off our oil. We can walk or ride horses. We can burn wood for heat in winter.

I agree with everything except this part. If they cut off our oil, we shouldn't go back to horses. We should just take "their" oil, which is really only theirs for as long as they can defend it -- Just like they perceive Israel is only for the Jews as long for as the Jews can defend it. When they recognize other people's rights, that's when we will recognize theirs. We have appeased the Arabs for too long in this any many other regards. It's their turn to start appeasing.

11 posted on 12/04/2001 11:01:50 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
We should just take "their" oil, which is really only theirs for as long as they can defend it...

The oil rigs belong to us (at least in Saudi Arabia), and our military defends the oil fields. I wouldn't worry about the U.S. being "denied" oil from the Middle East.

17 posted on 12/04/2001 11:29:20 PM PST by SunStar
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To: monkeyshine
If they cut off our oil, we shouldn't go back to horses. We should just take "their" oil, which is really only theirs for as long as they can defend it -- Just like they perceive Israel is only for the Jews as long for as the Jews can defend it

I agree- well said, good point.

23 posted on 12/05/2001 2:25:09 AM PST by backhoe
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To: monkeyshine
>>We should just take "their" oil, which is really only theirs for as long as they can defend it<<

The only sense in which it is "theirs" is that they took it away from us in the first place.

In the civilized world, things don't belong to people because of their blood-they belong to people who create or buy them.

We found the oil (after discovering and developing productive uses for it), we created the means to recover it, developed a transportation and marketing system for it, and designed, produced, and installed the infrastructure which keeps it flowing.

After which the Saudi Arab barbarians, who design and create nothing, stole it from us.

Now, admittedly, we acquiesced in this rapine because of the degenerated nature of our political system, preferring instead to accept Saudi bribes to politicians in exchange for continued access (at their prices).

However, by any rational definition of ownership, it's our oil, not theirs-and I see no problem with taking it back.

24 posted on 12/05/2001 2:48:35 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: monkeyshine
There ya go, common sense. While we would very much like to see it not be the case someday, at present 80% of the world is still tooth and claw.

In a day and age like this, being a city on a hill, makes you a good target to site in on. No way a bunch of militant former goat herders should be allowed to hold us hostage over oil. If they ask a fair price, fine, if they should try to roll over us, we should roll over them.

30 posted on 12/05/2001 4:46:54 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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