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Biometric IDs urged for Maryland licenses {THE POLICE STATE SYSTEM FOR TOTAL CONTROL}
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | December 4, 2001 | By Tom Stuckey

Posted on 12/04/2001 11:19:37 AM PST by expose

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:36:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

ANNAPOLIS

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biometrics
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To: t-shirt
t-shirt, the link in question goes back to Free Republic...specificall the folder for this thread.

RAND can be found by clicking on this link.

21 posted on 12/04/2001 3:13:21 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah; expose; All
My post number 20 was refering to post #10.

I don't know why the link on #7 is bad, I may have messed it up, although I thought I checked it when posting it.

22 posted on 12/04/2001 3:15:22 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Congressman Billybob
Kind of like going from a prison courtyard to lockdown, hard to describe the difference in lifestyle, but you know it will be safe. You Sir, have forgotten what it's like to be free. Just as many prisoners eventually do.
23 posted on 12/04/2001 3:16:02 PM PST by mxbluto
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To: Poohbah
That is the site but there was a specific report I was linking it to.
24 posted on 12/04/2001 3:17:17 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Congressman Billybob
I agree with you. BFD!
25 posted on 12/04/2001 3:17:43 PM PST by DCPatriot
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To: Congressman Billybob
"The Bill of Rights does not guarantee you the right to drive a car"

This is such a lame arguement, who did you steal this line from Hillary Clinton ?

26 posted on 12/04/2001 3:18:18 PM PST by michaelje
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To: t-shirt
I ran a search on "biometrics" and came up with 88 hits on the RAND site. Do you remember the title, or at least what part of RAND it was under?
27 posted on 12/04/2001 3:19:30 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Congressman Billybob
"The Bill of Rights does not guarantee you the right to drive a car. "

Nor does the Bill of Rights guarantee my right to own a toilet, notebook computer, or camera.

Not all of my rights are s-p-e-l-l-e-d out specifically in the BOR.

28 posted on 12/04/2001 3:21:26 PM PST by michaelje
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To: michaelje
This is such a lame arguement,

It is pretty lame, though I've heard similar sentiments from Statists. It's kind of like saying "The Bill of Rights does not guarantee that you won't be severely beaten by a police officer named Steve on Tuesdays and Sundays".

29 posted on 12/04/2001 3:22:12 PM PST by mxbluto
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To: mxbluto
Thats my point. Not everything is laid out to a "T".
30 posted on 12/04/2001 3:23:00 PM PST by michaelje
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To: Congressman Billybob
Anyone who doesn't want that infornation obtained and placed on a license is welcome to refuse to get a license. The Bill of Rights does not guarantee you the right to drive a car. Or for that matter, to own a car -- it's a matter of freedom of choice and working to earn the money. I don't see these as the precursors of Jackboots in the halls.

Well, the problem is, it won't be long before the states start performing searches against the photometric database that is supposed to be used only for ID verification. I have no problem with this technology being used solely to confirm that I am who I am when I board a plane or other ID functions. However, Governor Bill Owens of Colorado has already said he could see the driver's license database being used to search for criminals - if the cops have a photo of a perp, they can search the database for that perp. I have VERY mixed feelings about such a use - and if the history of government is any indicator, the odds are good that such a database will be used and abused...

31 posted on 12/04/2001 3:25:46 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Congressman Billybob
Sure, and I bet you'll be the first in line for the implanted microchip,too
32 posted on 12/04/2001 4:13:36 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: expose
"Driver's licenses could contain personal information of motorists, such as fingerprints or retinal scans,..."
Or whether or not you own a firearm...
33 posted on 12/04/2001 4:37:26 PM PST by Redbob45
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To: SUSSA
"When I raised heck with my state Senator, Jane Nelson, she said she was against it at first, but Bush told her he wanted it to collect child support from deadbeat dads (for the children), so she went along."

This is the same Sen. Nelson who led the charge to outlaw that Texas institution (the National Drink of Texas?), the 'Road Beer'!
She's just not to be trusted, I tell you!

34 posted on 12/04/2001 4:44:48 PM PST by Redbob45
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To: expose
Some will think it's a good idea, others will grumble about it, but in the end 99.999 percent of the people will roll over and accept it.
35 posted on 12/04/2001 6:11:28 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: expose
Well well, the unseen gods of America want to track people...simply Satanic.
36 posted on 12/04/2001 6:20:43 PM PST by AMMON-CENTRIST
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37 posted on 12/04/2001 8:26:03 PM PST by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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To: cascademountaineer
Know why you need a drivers license? to drive on public roads. Thats all. End of story.

Then, using that logic, it would be perfectly lawful, just, moral, and within the authority of the government to require a license for walking on the sidewalk, or riding a bike on the road, or using 'public property' in any way whatsoever, parks etc. This would include buying water or any commodity from a public utility, or requiring virtually anything they desired in order to attend public school.

38 posted on 12/05/2001 10:24:49 AM PST by mindprism.com
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To: mindprism.com
Or public toilets...or parks...ad nauseum.

Agreed. There is some inconsistency. But I do still feel that people have the right to drive. Some people dont. Someone made a statement along the lines of "you dont have the right to drive" which I dont feel is correct. All states have different rules for it. But nowhere does it say that you dont have the right to drive. The issue apparently boils down to licensing to some people, and in the end thats probably the crux of the matter.

39 posted on 12/05/2001 10:56:35 AM PST by cascademountaineer
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To: cascademountaineer
The issue apparently boils down to licensing to some people, and in the end thats probably the crux of the matter.

Here is what I consider the key: The state (public) DOES have a valid interest in making the roads safe, however, they do not have legitimacy in doing whatever is neccessary to accomplish that goal.

Driver licensing is 'guilt of being unsafe' without the required proof.

To 'show that' -- what do you think would be the states attitude if I said "OK, license me, but for ID I will only submit the print of my big toe".

40 posted on 12/05/2001 11:38:58 AM PST by mindprism.com
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