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HILLARY CLINTON -U. S. SENATOR- IS A KEY DEFENDENT IN LORAL SHAREHOLERS CASE ie. CHINAGATE
Judicial Watch ^ | 11/1/01 | Larry Klayman

Posted on 12/01/2001 4:06:05 PM PST by ChaseR

As of 8/08/01, United States Senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton is a co-defendent in the Judicial Watch, Loral Shareholders case. This case was filed in federal court in Washington, D. C. This case formally accuses Senator Hillary Clinton, along with other defendents - of transfering technology to China. Co-defendents in this devastating case include, but are not limited to - William Jefferson Clinton, John Huang and Bernard Schwartz. This case is styled 01-CV-1715.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bernardschwartz; chinagate; clinton; fundraising; hillary; hillaryscandals; judicialwatch; loral; scandals; x42
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To: backhoe
Thanks backhoe.
(also - notice above -that our FR poster who is a retired Loral worker - also mentioned a Michael Armstrony who was a "running buddy" of Dr Wah Lim. Can you ck out this Armstrony fella too? Thanks.
401 posted on 12/23/2001 2:14:42 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: backhoe; LarryLied; LoneGreenEyeShade; Black Jade; GretchenEE; mountaineer; dougfromupland...
(since I have received the O. K. to post whatever I deem necessary from our FR poster who is from Loral, let me post exactly what this person has mailed me over the past few days (instead of me putting it in my words)

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"....Now Lim is on a govt. technology committee looking at all our country's top technology. Great place.
The other poster may be from Hughes. I was a manager at Northrop also. I hope that you can do something. Insightmag did an article on myself and our group that came forward. I have been blackballed by the aerospace, but am retired now anyway. But Dana and Klayman and all promised me to do something and never did. Dana was gungho in the beginning and then suddenly stopped. I think he was threatened.
I am still in touch with others who were involved. I would be interested if you could help.
I want to see the technology leak stopped. And I know that is the main leak."

402 posted on 12/23/2001 2:19:00 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: backhoe; LarryLied; Alamo-Girl; Luis Gonzalez; Michael Rivero; Thanatos; mountaineer; Zadokite...
more:

"Chase: Thanks for posting this. I have tried so hard to try and get Rohrabacher, Santoli, etc. to do something about this Loral thing. There is more stolen than is listed in the press. And it is critical what they have stolen.
I am flabbergasted that Rohrabacher is doing what he is doing. I am wondering if he is being blackmailed. There is a lot more going on in dc than we have any clue about. And it does include the espionage by various chinese inside our country."

403 posted on 12/23/2001 2:24:58 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: FReethesheeples; zog; veronica; Alouette; 2sheep; RedBloodedAmerican; nachum; ratcat; rit...
more mail from retired Loral poster:

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"Our group met with Rohrabacher in May 96 and again once later. I worked with others who questioned me thoroughly about what I knew about Lim. They finally pinned him but someone, I think Clinton, saved Lim because of Schwartz.
Lim was moved to Hughes, and they had to retire the engineering VP in order to give Lim a job. He continued until this hit the papers. Then it all went hush hush and then I read the article about his appointment to the top technology committe under the Defense Dept. So he got a big reward for his treason.
He stole some very important other items while at Loral. The security at Loral was almost non existent. The Security Manager was in a state of collapse after the govt. agents got through with him. His name was Bob Coope and he lives in Rohrabacher's district. The whole thing has been swept under the proverbial rug."

404 posted on 12/23/2001 2:29:32 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: LarryLied; Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Thanatos; John Huang2; Kattracks; dougfromupland; flamefront;
and more FR mail - this past 24 hours:

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"Wah Lim went to U of Minnesota. Then went to work at Honeywell (he became friends with Dr. Robert Mueller there) in Minneapolis. They both came to Honeywell West Covina which was called Training and Control Systems.
Dr. Lim was a research engineer there with his main project the Ring Laser Gyro.

He and Mueller then went to Northrop Electronics Division. Lim couldn't pass the clearances to go to the B-2 Division. He lied and said on his clearance papers that he was born in Singapore when he actually was born in Shanghai.
He left Northrop Electronics, in 1989, to become VP of Electronic Warfare. While there (Mueller went there first) Lim committed all kinds of security violations but was protected by Mueller, who by then was President of the 3 divisions of Loral located in Pasadena. There were some very important items that turned up missing there which was a threat to the security of our country.
As soon as Congress began investigating in 1996, Clinton stepped in and rescued Loral. At that time, Lockheed bought the Loral Divisions except the Satellite operation and Lim went running to Hughes Electronis Division. Armstrong forced the VP of Engineering to retire so he could place Dr. Lim in that guy's spot as VP. Armstrong and Mueller are as big rats as Lim. And I am not sure, but I think that Mueller is the same one that is head of Defense now. Or his son. Its 11 years later and that would make Mueller some where in his 50-60's. We have lots of spies who are of US descent. Disgusting isn't it.
Did you ever talk to Al Santoli? He is back now. Try again. Or try Joe Farah at Worldnetdaily.com"

405 posted on 12/23/2001 2:35:47 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: LarryLied; LoneGreenEyeShade; Alamo-Girl
more mail from yesterday:

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"Our group met with Rohrabacher in his Huntington Beach office. The first time, it was just Rohrabacher and his aide there. The second meeting, it was Dana and other people from agencies. They didn't identify themselves as to who they were as far as agencies. We found out some about them. Klayman and Rodriguez were at a conference in Pasadena....(omitted by ChaseR) .... - with Klayman to help.
Rodriguez had previously published an article on Lim and finally Cox did put the story in the Cox Report which is available to read. They wrote an edited edition of it for the general public. With classified info deleted.
Everyone promised to do something, but when Clinton went back into office in 1996, everyone backed away. Now Klayman has resurrected the case.
(Please read my other note that I just sent. The sequence of Lim's moves are out of order. His route was Honeywell, to Northrop Electronics, to Loral Electronic Warfare, to Hughes Electronics. As far as I know, he is still at Hughes although Armstrong is now at AT&T.)
And someone, perhaps Mueller, put him on this technology committee which is under the Department of Transportation I think. At any case, it is a top technology committee.
Some people still send me articles on Loral and China since they know that I tried to get them to listen.
The lady from NSA went back and told Cox that (omitted by ChaseR)."

"...(omitted)...and I did not hit it off when she and an FBI guy were here. She was a Democrat and very arrogant. Having been a top aerospace manager myself, she pissed me off. She would not show me her badge. I told her that was ok I had already checked with DC and found out who she was. That upset her.
The FBI guy thought it funny. He could not stand her either. We taped the interview. The FBI guy showed his ID immediately on request. I told her I didn't just let anyone into my home without knowing who they were."

406 posted on 12/23/2001 2:46:57 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: all
(the reason for my posting this for the retired Loral worker is that - apparently - this American Hero/Patriot - does not want to post it/I didn't ask why) (so I, irrlevant me - has done so..heheh)
407 posted on 12/23/2001 2:51:29 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs/fun/rlg.htm

RING LASER GYRO

The Ring Laser Gyros (RLG) can be used as the stable elements (for one degree of freedom each) in an inertial guidance system. The advantage of using a RLG is that there are no moving parts. Compared to the conventional spinning gyro, this means there is no friction, which in turn means there will be no inherent drift terms. Additionally, the entire unit is compact, lightweight and virtually indestructable, meaning it can be used in aircraft.

The basic principle of operation is that a single RLG can measure any rotation about its sensitive axis. This implies that the orientation in inertial space will be known at all times. The elements that measure actual accelerations can therefore be resolved into the appropriate directions.

...more at link, mostly techhie arcane formulae. Among other things, it makes icbms hit better, sorta a useful gizmo. Hmm, maybe make subs navigate better, too, all kinza stuff. Makes smaller MIRVS more practical to use I bet, hmm, like the w-88.

408 posted on 12/23/2001 2:54:00 PM PST by zog
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To: ChaseR
A web search revealed weird stuff, but not in the context you are mentioning ( these aren't clickable links; just a copy of the page )

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409 posted on 12/23/2001 2:54:08 PM PST by backhoe
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To: ChaseR
I'll also put a direct link to #405-- that should give readers enough to follow if they are interested... and they dam' well ought to be, this is "life or death" stuff, not kiddie sex in the Oval Office!
410 posted on 12/23/2001 2:59:53 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe; LarryLied
(for the record, more on Charlie Trie)
411 posted on 12/23/2001 3:01:46 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: zog
Big Thanks to you zog/BTTT
412 posted on 12/23/2001 3:02:29 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: backhoe
Big Thanks to you too backhoe for helping with this Clinton/Loral cr*p!! BTTT
413 posted on 12/23/2001 3:03:42 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: backhoe
(got to go, kids badgering me for the puter..darn it/things will be like this till they go back to school 7th of Jan.) /BTTT
414 posted on 12/23/2001 3:05:18 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ratcat
Timely bump ratcat/BTTT
416 posted on 12/23/2001 5:56:31 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
Thanks for all the information!!!
417 posted on 12/23/2001 8:12:57 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Black Jade
I had a friend of mine who was laid off from Hughes not too long ago. He was telling me that the space technology for satellites back in 1993 was being cancelled because of Clinton cancelling out projects for missle defense. Many of these projects which would have been worked on by private contractors under Hughes were done away with thanks to Clinton.

Now I find out that Hughes is involved with the selling of our technology to the Chinese. Just damning. My friend was telling me how they insisted that he get a top clearance and he told them to stick it up their ass. Why should he have to go through such debriefing and clearance processing when Clinton never even had such clearance and sold this country out to the Com-Chi's.

419 posted on 12/23/2001 9:36:25 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Black Jade; ChaseR; Snow Bunny; Landru; poet; summer; HalfIrish; Billie; sinkspur; FallGuy; ...
Yes...but how can we use this information to INDICT Der SchleekMeister, the HildaBeast, and T-Mac?!!

Let's begin with Terrance McAuliffe...I find him offensive!!

FReegards...MUD

420 posted on 12/23/2001 9:39:22 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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