Islam Vs. The World

Too Good Reports ^ | December 2, 2001 | Alan Caruba

[knighthawk]

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[AGAviator]

So when Islam is finished as a religion, will the Western commercial exploitation of their lands, and the support of dictatorial regimes in those lands which oppress their own people, stop?

Are you saying that if, say, the Palestinians converted to Christianity, or even Judaism, that the Israeli state would welcome them and give them the same full rights that Jews get?

Or if Persians were Zoroastrian instead of Muslims, they could amass the 400 nuclear weapons that Israel has, without being branded as a danger to peace?

[eastsider]

It must have its own Reformation, its own Enlightenment, or, failing that, it too shall fail.... I do not believe we have been witness to the revival and resurgence of Islam. I believe we are witness to its death throes.

From this thread:

The Northern Alliance administration, now in control of Kabul, on Friday lifted all religious restrictions imposed by the hardline Taliban in Afghanistan, saying the dark years are over.

Religious affairs minister Ataullha symbolically chose a 532-year-old Hindu temple in Kabul on a Friday, the Muslim holy day, to make the announcement.

"The dark years have gone. We are ready to give all rights to every religion," he said, blaming past atrocities on the Taliban and the Pakistani government which supported it.

[Francohio]

It is well that you are amused.

Islam did have an amusing couple of centuries, the 12th and 13th. However, the learning of Islam derived not from within, but from those bastions of the Christian Byzantine Empire the Muslims overran.

It is there that they took over the remnants and trappings of Classical Civilization, which they had handily destroyed. Northern Africa, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Constantinople ... those were all Christian lands, which over the centuries were forcibly converted to Islam by the sword.

The proof of the matter is that since those heady times of supposed Islamic intellectual glory, the Muslim lands have actually retrogressed. Their civilization, such as it is, is stagnant: has been for nigh on a 1,000 years.

[timestax]

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[TimSkalaBim]

Muslims have undeniably made advances in at least one area -- that of perfecting a seething, vindictive, incoherent radicalism.

Once we take that from them they'll get really mad.... (snort!)

[NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh]

That means something, because I'm an editor by day.

For Al Jazeera? Al Hayat? What?

[ZULU]

Western man spends too much time on introspection. Genghis Khan and his followers were murderers without equal but since they weren't white Europeans, no body attacks them.

[RnMomof7]

mathematical advances for one...

Isaac Newton, Leonhard Euler, Johann Gauss, Albert Einstein were Muslims?

I think he means counting on your finger and toes..a poor man caculator

[Travis McGee]

Maybe one day those idiots will figure out that jihad means mass sucide for Muslims?

That's why I think of them as ISLEMMINGS, running for the cliff over the ocean screaming "Allah Akbar!"

[Travis McGee]

Several nations have 400+ nuclear weapons, and we lose no sleep over them, because they are not run by insane death cultists.

So the answer is "yes".

[Valin]

It may very well end up with hasbin getting what he wants, a war between the west and Isam. If that does happen a word of warning Be careful what you ask for....you just might get it. One thing you can say about the west is we are very very good at war.

[GeronL]

thanks for the bump (I gave you credit on another thread wrongly... I hit the wrong link=o)

[magglepuss]

I think he means counting on your finger and toes..a poor man caculator

Chisenbop allows counts to 10,000 on fingers & toes.

[Brian Allen]

That means something, because "I'm an editor by day."

That "means something," where?

In islamcityonline, perhaps?

In Gaza?

In the little theater between your ears?

You insult our intelligence!

[Don't quit your day job, you and Art Buchwald are the lucky couple!]

[Brian Allen]

Muslims have undeniably made advances in at least one area -- that of perfecting a seething, vindictive, incoherent radicalism.

And it is more than likely that the life and times of Derr pagan-heathen, death and destruction worshipping, blasphemous, false "Feurher Mohammed" offered all of the inspiration that was needed to the pagan-heathen, death and destruction worshipping, blasphemous, false "Prophet Hitler," whose "1000-year reich" simply added a dash of marxism and the modern machinery of death and destruction to a mix that has served Derr Feurher Mohammed's followers since about 650AD!