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Arkansas Freeper Gov. Mike tells Liberals go tax yourself!!
AR Democrat-Gazette | Nov. 29, 2001 | Michael Rowett

Posted on 11/29/2001 10:45:16 AM PST by missanne

Don't brood, say, 'Tax Me'MICHAEL ROWETT ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

Gov. Mike Huckabee on Wednesday mocked lawmakers who have suggested considering tax increases to offset a budgetary retreat by his administration. Anyone who wants to pay more can send a check to a new state Tax Me More Fund, he said.

Speaking to the Arkansas Farm Bureau convention in Little Rock, Huckabee challenged such lawmakers to open their checkbooks and send money to the fund.

The audience initially laughed at the suggestion.

"I'm as serious as I can be," Huckabee said. "It's put-up-or-shut-up time. Either put up the money, write the check and let us see you're serious or quit telling me Arkansans want their taxes raised. Because I'm convinced that Arkansans would say today, 'My taxes are high enough.' "

For those who believe that tax increases provide the answer -- "the liberal tax-and-spenders," Huckabee called them in an interview after his speech -- the state Department of Finance and Administration at the governor's behest set up the Tax Me More Fund. Its address is P.O. Box 8054, Little Rock, Ark. 72203.

Later Wednesday the governor's office issued a news release announcing the account. "There's nothing in the law that prohibits those who believe they aren't paying enough in taxes from writing a check to the state of Arkansas," the release said. "Maybe this will make them feel better."

Money sent in will be used to offset $303 million in state general revenue cuts that his administration has announced for this and the next state fiscal year.

Huckabee said in an interview that he won't send a check. "It's just not where I feel like I need to pay a whole lot more than I'm already paying," he said.

Among lawmakers who say tax increases should at least be considered, including some of Huckabee's fellow Republicans, reaction to the governor's pronouncements ranged from incredulity to anger.

"Obviously, it's a grandstand act and what you would expect of somebody who takes on clownish behavior, and, unfortunately, this is what we've come to expect from this particular governor," said Senate Majority Leader John Riggs, D-Little Rock. "You would hope Arkansas could have a strong leader and a strong CEO, but that's not what we decided to elect when the governor got elected."

"I assume he was kidding," Senate President Pro Tempore Mike Beebe, D-Searcy, said when asked to comment on the Tax Me More Fund. When assured that Huckabee was serious, Beebe, who is running for attorney general next year, said he would have to speak personally to Huckabee before commenting about the fund.

Senate Minority Leader John Brown, R-Siloam Springs, said Huckabee apparently cares more about scoring political points for the 2002 re-election campaign than engaging in serious discussion about budget issues. "He could have responded more appropriately," Brown said. "I wanted to encourage a more public debate, and not one just focused on him."

House Speaker Shane Broadway, D-Bryant, who is considering an electoral challenge to Huckabee next year, said he "has no fault" with the Tax Me More Fund because some Arkansans likely will donate to it. But he said the governor owes Arkansans more serious, less simplistic solutions.

Huckabee said those affected or potentially affected by the state budget cuts could encourage people to send money to the Tax Me More Fund or trust his administration to focus the cuts on administration rather than on direct services.

"Pray a little more, work a little harder, save, wait, be patient and, most of all, live within our means," Huckabee said. "That's the American way. It's not spending ourselves into prosperity or taxing ourselves into prosperity."

Huckabee said the scholarship programs were among his highest priorities, but there are other options to help students go to college without increasing taxes. He suggested that students who won't be getting state-funded scholarships should join the military to finance their education or take out student loans.

"Some of us went the old-fashioned way -- W-O-R-K -- and we worked our way," Huckabee said.

Huckabee said he knows of no public groundswell for higher taxes and suspects there isn't one.

Huckabee told the audience that he has "no intentions" of calling the Legislature into special session to consider any taxes. "There's got to be a better way," he said, provoking one of several rounds of applause from his audience.

After his speech Huckabee hedged a bit, saying he wasn't rejecting such a session under all circumstances.

He also pledged to "vigorously and steadfastly oppose" efforts to establish a state lottery or legalize casinos to offset the budget cuts because gambling "entice[s] the poorest citizens in our state to play games of chance in which they will lose the paycheck they cannot afford to lose for the hopes of winning something they did not earn."

Riggs responded, "I think it's ludicrous to say we don't need to look at revenue enhancements like that."

The governor ridiculed the logic of those who think increasing taxes would be advisable during the current economic downturn. Anyone who thinks more taxes is the answer "lives in luxury ... have more money than good sense" and is out of touch with the hardships faced by working Arkansans, he said.

Teachers likely won't get all the raises they were promised, students will lose access to scholarships, and the needy will be left without services because "the governor is unable to formulate a reasonable budget and is clownish enough to think the state doesn't need some form of revenue enhancement," Riggs said.

Brown commented, "I think we could have had a discussion behind closed doors, with key leadership, but I think that cow's probably out of the barn. It's probably too late. I think part of the problem is that next year's an election year."

It's appropriate for tax increases to at least be considered because the cuts were not anticipated by Huckabee and lawmakers when the Legislature was in session this year and are affecting important areas, Brown said. "I see the car going over the cliff."

Brown last week proposed "targeted," temporary tax increases such as an income tax surcharge or increased tobacco taxes to offset cuts to key programs such as teachers' raises and college scholarships. "I'm sorry he hasn't taken at least my comments more seriously, because they were offered in good faith," Brown said.

He said Arkansans concerned about education and human services would be open to at least considering higher taxes for specific purposes.

Beebe said any consideration of higher taxes should be discussed in the context of a potential ruling against the state in the Lake View school funding case.

That case could result in the largest tax increase in Arkansas history if the Arkansas Supreme Court agrees with a lower court judge that the state should pump as much as $900 million in new funding into public schools.

"That's not really how you deal with the issues we're confronting right now," Broadway said. "I don't think you shut the door to anything. Tax increases aren't easy. But I think you've got to step up to the plate and not just blanketly say no. ... How long will it take the economy to recover? We don't know. We have to look at all the options."

Brown said he doesn't plan to contribute to the Tax Me More Fund because he doesn't consider it a serious approach to the issue. "I'm serious about the needs of teachers. ... I've been in education all my life. It's not a political issue for me," he said.

Huckabee said he's "amazed when people with a straight face say they don't think Sept. 11 [terrorist attacks] had that big an impact on the economy. How anyone can say that in the face of the facts is beyond me."

After revenues began slowing, the Huckabee administration on March 29 chopped $58 million off the administration's original budget estimate for fiscal 2002. He said Wednesday that until the attacks, the state was meeting the lowered March forecast.

The state's general revenue budget totals about $3.4 billion a year. This article was published on Thursday, November 29, 2001 RETURN to Arkansas Section


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To: missanne
...Tax increases aren't easy. But I think you've got to step up to the plate and not just blanketly say no. ... How long will it take the economy to recover? We don't know. We have to look at all the options."

If you raise taxes, you'll HURT the economy, not help it you complete and total utter IDIOT!!! Blanketly saying no to tax increases is exactly the right first step to take in a down economy. You should be talking at length about how to CUT taxes to help the economy, not increase them.

BTW, my comments are specifically directed at the perpetrator of the stupidity in the quote, not the wonderful FReeper who posted it here :)

41 posted on 11/29/2001 12:26:59 PM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: dubyaismypresident
The Tax Me More Fund, I thought that was the Democratic National Committee.

Yeah, something I've often wondered off and on... Why're dems so hard-set against tax-breaks benefiting the wealthy? The ones in power certainly ain't lunching on generic brand canned pasta like SOME of us.

I guess it all comes down to milking your constituency.

42 posted on 11/29/2001 12:44:08 PM PST by maxwell
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To: maxwell
I sent the article to my TN state congress critters..both republicans...they need to do the same thing to Gov Taxquist, who keeps whining he needs more money to blow on dumb college courses like "how to wrap Christmas packages, how to decorate your home for Christmas". And so House Speaker jimmy nafieh can take $5,000 joy rides in the State airplane, so he can avoid the security and lines at the airports.
43 posted on 11/29/2001 1:01:57 PM PST by GailA
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To: missanne
I love what Gov. Mike has done here! It's inspiring and I hope other Governors take notice!

I agree, but the big dogs are the ones in DC. How about a national referrendum amending the IRS code, which simply says something along this line... "All elected Washington Officials will pay a Flat Tax consisting of their entire earnings. There will be a one time $1.00 deduction for as long as they are in office."

Maybe then, we could get this country straightened out to the point where every American has to be accountable for their own actions; and growing this country instead of stifling creativity, risk by entrepreneurs (can never spell that word).

Interesting tid-bit of info.... How many FREEpers know that Lawyers do not charge their clients a state sales tax (in those 46 states that have sales taxes)? They don't, because they're the ones who effectively write the laws. Even though they provide a service, just as a plumber, or electrican does, they do not charge their customers sales taxes. The tradesmen that I hire charge me 7.25% sales tax for their services.

I could go on for hours but my wife is sitting here telling me to "just give it up... you're not going to change the world."

Regards, Mark

44 posted on 11/29/2001 1:23:02 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Nephi
Now if only we get more like him and inject them into the top echelons of the RNC....well, it would definitely help my acid-reflux.
45 posted on 11/29/2001 1:40:11 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: missanne
Senate Minority Leader John Brown, R-Siloam Springs, said Huckabee apparently cares more about scoring political points for the 2002 re-election campaign than engaging in serious discussion about budget issues. "He could have responded more appropriately,"

This is the Republican leader in the Senate?

46 posted on 11/29/2001 1:41:24 PM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: missanne
Just Awesome - Another American hero is born.

George W. Bush, Rudy Guiliani, now Mike Huckabee.

Keep fighting the Good Fight, Mike!

We Are With You!

47 posted on 11/29/2001 1:46:23 PM PST by Stallone
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To: missanne
Obviously, it's a grandstand act and what you would expect of somebody who takes on clownish behavior, and, unfortunately, this is what we've come to expect from this particular governor," said Senate Majority Leader John Riggs, D-Little Rock.

Unlike Clintoon, who only whored his way through the governorship.

48 posted on 11/29/2001 1:50:50 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: afuturegovernor
My thoughts are similar to yours.

Tying the scum down, and exorcising them from the world is the only answer.

Gov. Mike is THE EXORCIST!

For God and Country, Mike is on to something big here!

49 posted on 11/29/2001 1:50:58 PM PST by Stallone
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To: missanne
Lol the "tax me more fund" not a bad idea...
50 posted on 11/29/2001 1:51:29 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: missanne; Diddle E. Squat
The Tax Me More Fund. I love it.

SO DO I!

The others want to talk about it in the "BACKROOM". NO, tell us what they think to our faces and see how many votes they get. "BACKROOM" deals are NOT good for taxpayers because then who do we vote out of office if we don't know who voted on what.

51 posted on 11/29/2001 2:15:54 PM PST by kcvl
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To: missanne
...because gambling "entice[s] the poorest citizens in our state to play games of chance in which they will lose the paycheck they cannot afford to lose for the hopes of winning something they did not earn."

And it never works anyway. I've lived in 2 states that adopted lotteries "to help the schools and reduce the property tax." Our taxes always went up and our schools still cried poor mouth. Currently, our state is enjoined from advertising to promote the lottery -- only to tell the residents that it is available. Ha! Looks and sounds like promotion to me. Cutesy ads that suck folks in. Same folks who spend all their time at the Indian casinos and then stand in line at the food pantries the following week.

Gov. Mike Huckabee is a breath of fresh air. Love that man almost as much as G. W. Bush. 2008?

52 posted on 11/29/2001 2:31:35 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: missanne; Jim Robinson
Does anyone know Mike Huckabee's screen name? Someone should alert him to this thread to cheer his day.
53 posted on 11/29/2001 2:33:28 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Clinton's a liar
Do you know Gov. Mike's screen name? Someone should alert him to this thread.
54 posted on 11/29/2001 2:36:37 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: missanne
Laura Bush hosted a symposium on Mark Twain at the White House where she revealed that the author's favorite quote was: Do the right thing. It will gratify a few and amaze the rest... I hereby nominate Gov. Huckabee for the Mark Twain Award!

White House symposium

55 posted on 11/29/2001 2:48:27 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
We are blessed here in Arkansas to finally have a wonderful godly man to occuply the Governor's Mansion. Janet his wife is just as beloved. Their family is a great example of what Arkansas people should be about. Thanks for the Roll Model Gov. Mike And Janet Be blessed
56 posted on 11/29/2001 2:54:23 PM PST by whitewaterresident
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To: Cool Guy
Yes indeedy!
57 posted on 11/29/2001 3:02:30 PM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: Cool Guy
That would be great to one of him in Calif. and every state.
58 posted on 11/29/2001 4:13:11 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: missanne
Obviously, it's a grandstand act and what you would expect of somebody who takes on clownish behavior, and, unfortunately, this is what we've come to expect from this particular governor," said Senate Majority Leader John Riggs, D-Little Rock.

A grandstand act? You mean like nailing his door shut when he was Lt. Governor? Or like stealing his office furniture when he was Lt. Governor? Or like trying to take the Governorship back from him on the day he was sworn in?

The Legislature thought they had the Governor on the run and that they could give him the 1000 pinprick treatment. Could maneuver him into a George Bush I tax increase. Not so...they got a big surprise.

This was pretty funny. The Legislature is acting like they stuck their hand in water and found it was acid. LOL
59 posted on 11/29/2001 5:26:26 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Cool Guy
Thanks for the heads up!
60 posted on 11/29/2001 6:16:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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