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Software flaw threatens Linux servers
C|Net ^ | November 28, 2001, 1:50 p.m. PT | Robert Lemos

Posted on 11/28/2001 1:28:10 PM PST by Don Joe

Software flaw threatens Linux servers
By Robert Lemos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
November 28, 2001, 1:50 p.m. PT

A vulnerability in the most widely used FTP server program for Linux has left numerous sites open to online attackers, a situation worsened when Red Hat mistakenly released information on the flaw early, leaving other Linux companies scrambling to get a fix out.

"Other vendors didn't have a patch," said Alfred Huger, vice president of engineering for network security information provider SecurityFocus. The company has been working with vendors to fix the vulnerability after computer security company Core Security Technologies alerted them to the problem Nov. 14.

"The fix is not rocket science," Huger said. "But we weren't working at a breakneck pace to get a patch out, because everyone was working together."

The software flaw affects all versions of wu-FTP, a program originally created at Washington University at St. Louis for servers running FTP (file transfer protocol) functions for transferring files over the Internet.

While the exact number of active FTP servers on the Internet is not known, the software is the most commonly installed file server and accompanies most major Linux distributions, including those from Red Hat, SuSE, Caldera International, Turbolinux, Connectiva, Cobalt Networks, MandrakeSoft and Wirex.

The problem, known in security circles as the wu-FTP Globbing Heap Corruption Vulnerability, allows attackers to get remote access to all files on a server, provided they can access the FTP service. Since most such servers provide anonymous access to anyone on the Internet, a great number will be vulnerable.

Huger called the flaw "serious."

The impact of the software vulnerability was exacerbated because many Linux software companies were caught flat-footed by a surprise early release of information regarding the vulnerability.

While the group that discovered the flaw, Core ST, informed Linux software companies and the open-source group that manages development for wu-FTP of the flaw, Red Hat mistakenly released a security advisory to its customers on Tuesday.

Normally, an advisory is a good thing, but other Linux software sellers had expected any advisories to be published Dec. 3, giving them time to work on fixes. Instead, the surprise announcement left the customers of other companies' products vulnerable.

"We were releasing some advisories on the same day, and an overzealous administrator pushed this out as well," said Mark Cox, senior engineering director for Red Hat. The company is adding new safeguards to its publishing system to avoid similar problems in the future, he said.

"We put a stop to this," Cox said. "This will not happen again. It was a bad mistake."


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To: Bush2000
If IIS bugs are "Windows bugs", then this is certainly a "Linux bug".

IIS bugs are 'Microsoft' bugs -- because MS *makes* IIS. IIS bugs are not 'Windows' bugs.

And this is not a Linux bug. Man, you really have to be kidding, right? You at least know that much, don't you?

Ask yourself -- with this bug, can you attack the OS itself? The answer is *no*. This is not an OS vulnerability.

I'm beginning to wonder about ya'll. Are you seriously trying to claim this as a Linux bug?

141 posted on 11/28/2001 3:25:33 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
For example -- this security flaw wouldn't allow someone to affect the OS. That's what 'Linux and Unix are secure' means. Not that there has never been buggy software *for* it.

Let's see... having root access to a Linux box isn't affecting the OS?

Guess I don't need to worry about hackers geting the passsord for my NT administrator account now. Thanks for making me sleep better at night.

142 posted on 11/28/2001 3:26:32 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: oc-flyfish
How does this grab you? Hook up with a cable modem, then run a network scan with PC Anywhere. Any guesses as to how many people will have PC Anywhere running without even a password?
143 posted on 11/28/2001 3:27:06 PM PST by stylin_geek
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To: Dominic Harr
The 'security' issue is about the OS itself.

Here's where you're on weak ground, Dominic. The reason that we're annoyed with Linux trolls is not because there's a bug in their FTP server. Hell, I expect bugs in ALL software (especially yours). The problem is their bogus insistence that "it can't happen because open source is a superior model to commercial models". And spare us the nonsense about not being able to compromise the OS. Buffer-overrun attacks can wipe out Linux just as easily as Windows.
144 posted on 11/28/2001 3:28:00 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: stylin_geek
That's an example of bad default installation, if PC Anywhere will actually let you load it, and start it up without a password protect.
145 posted on 11/28/2001 3:28:25 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: oc-flyfish
I can't tell you how many times I have heard that these types of things NEVER happen in open source (ala Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris).

I think you're making that up.

One of the big 'plusses' of open-source is that bugs get fixed more quickly.

No one would *ever* say that open-source never makes buggy software. I don't believe anyone said that. We tout how *fast* we fix bugs. If there were no bugs to begin with, we couldn't be so good at fixing them. And the real story here is how so many companies worked on fixes so quickly.

I'm guessing you just misunderstood . . .

146 posted on 11/28/2001 3:29:08 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
"You sound *so* uninformed right now."

Damn, Batchmo, it's like clockwork. Every time you spot your undies, you start squealing like a Valley Girl.

Can you like *drop* the Valleyspeak filter? It's like *so* 1985. Like *gag* me, ewwww!

147 posted on 11/28/2001 3:29:13 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: stylin_geek
Oh believe me I know. I did a port scan once and started snickering. I then tried to connect via UNC (\\10.10.10.10) and connected right to some dude's C drive.
148 posted on 11/28/2001 3:29:21 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Bush2000
Who says bugs can't happen? That's different that saying open-source or commercial software is better. Actually, like different computers, the different models are good at different things.
149 posted on 11/28/2001 3:30:49 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: oc-flyfish
Let's see... having root access to a Linux box isn't affecting the OS?

How would this give root access to the FTP user?

This bug doesn't give root access, that I'm aware of. Am I mistaken? Where does it say *that*?

150 posted on 11/28/2001 3:31:02 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
Yeah, it does. WU-FTP runs as root.
151 posted on 11/28/2001 3:32:26 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Bush2000
The problem is their bogus insistence that "it can't happen because open source is a superior model to commercial models".

Nice backtracking, but nope -- ya'll are claiming this is a Linux bug.

Besides, one of the biggest claims of 'open source' is we fix bugs *quickly*. So we obviously never claimed to have no bugs. You just put your foot in it, and I now wonder about your actual technical ability. You *can't* have really meant the things you've been saying, can you?

152 posted on 11/28/2001 3:33:21 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
I think you're making that up.

Nope, in fact I have heard it so much that it makes me want to vomit.

One of the big 'plusses' of open-source is that bugs get fixed more quickly.

Didn't happen here. I tend to disagree with this. I think MS has just as much incentive to fix a bug as does the open source community. No one looks good with "open doors" to the OS be it Linux or Windows.

153 posted on 11/28/2001 3:34:43 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Bush2000
"What's the matter, people? Cat got your FTP server?"

Lol, see #131.

154 posted on 11/28/2001 3:35:43 PM PST by Justa
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To: Dominic Harr
Batchmo Logic is like that joke about the two guys lost in the woods. Finally, the one with the map looks up, and exclaims that he knows where they are. The other guy asks where are we, and the map guy points to his map, then points to the horizon, and says, "See that mountain? We're right on top of it!"

All your cloying little pocket-strokes notwithstanding, the fact remains that countless Linux admins are having flakey $#!+$ tonight because their systems were compromised by an open-source OS component.

Call me skeptical, but somehow, I doubt that your gloating -- in the face of their agony -- would be received with welcome arms tonight.

But hey, WTF do I know? Maybe you really should hop on the ol' bandwagon and remind them all that their systems are impregnable, and there's nothing to worry about.

After you calm them down, you'll have their attention, so you can let them know how Java crapplications never crash, and run like greased bats with JATO pods fleeing from Hell Heights with a strong tailwind.

155 posted on 11/28/2001 3:35:47 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Dominic Harr
This bug doesn't give root access, that I'm aware of. Am I mistaken? Where does it say *that*?

Unless my lunch is making me loopy, I read it here on this tread. The daemon runs as root and allows the person to take control of the system after overflowing the buffer.

156 posted on 11/28/2001 3:36:36 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Liberal Classic
Yeah, it does. WU-FTP runs as root.

Where did you get that? I've never used that FTP software, but that makes *no* sense. Are you sure? I can't believe *anyone* would give any software 'root' access, especially any networking-type software like an FTP server.

If someone made the FTP client run as root on *purpose*, then absolutely that is a problem. But again, that isn't a 'Linux' problem now, is it? Not related to the OS or people making Linux, is it?

157 posted on 11/28/2001 3:38:27 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Liberal Classic
Who says bugs can't happen? That's different that saying open-source or commercial software is better. Actually, like different computers, the different models are good at different things.

Are you really going to sit here and tell me that the trolls at Slashdot, etc don't say that Linux has rock-solid reliability (ie. few to no bugs)?
158 posted on 11/28/2001 3:38:43 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Don Joe
After you calm them down, you'll have their attention, so you can let them know how Java crapplications never crash, and run like greased bats with JATO pods fleeing from Hell Heights with a strong tailwind.

LOL. Now why did you have to bring that up? :-)

159 posted on 11/28/2001 3:39:14 PM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Liberal Classic
Will you cut back you trolling? You shrill posts are starting to sting my eyes.

Heh heh. It's all in good fun.
160 posted on 11/28/2001 3:39:29 PM PST by Bush2000
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