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To: biblewonk
"No more nude Sun Run. No more Gaea Goddess Gathering or Midwest Men's Naturists conclave. And it will be so long and farewell to Celtic dance and spirit drumming beneath the stars on a 180-acre spread that some say is "as close to heaven as you can find in the state of Kansas." #1. These people are out in the middle of a 180 acre wooded area, How does the community know anything illegal is going on out there unless they have been there? Be honest, they are after these people because they dont like what they believe in. #2. What is immoral or amoral about nudity?? Were you born with a three piece suit on?? #3. This is not about the campground, this is about intolerance from the religious right in the community. There is no evidence presented in this article, that shows the people who use this retreat in any way force their beliefs on this community. They do not enter the town nude or conduct their services in the middle of the town. This is the problem with the religious right, Ive have debated folks on here about different topics in regards to religion. I have always supported the right of religious conservatives to associate or disassociate with whomever the choose, I support the Boy Scouts in their fight to exclude homosexuals. I have always been told by my friends on the religious right, that it isnt about religion it's about the left forcing their anti-religious bigotry on the Christian community, I have agreed with them and supported them. However I defy any religious conservative to defend this town. If it isnt about religion in this case, what is it? These people brought property out away from everyone else to practice their religious beliefs as they see fit. These people in the town are using the drug abuse, child abuse and satan worship to attack these folks, like the FEDS used that angle to go after the Davidians. This is the moment of truth for the folks who told me it isnt about religion, If you were honest then, then you cant support this decision by these board members.
28 posted on 11/28/2001 7:12:28 AM PST by All-American Medic
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To: All-American Medic
What is immoral or amoral about nudity??

Did you miss the word "public"?

45 posted on 11/28/2001 7:34:31 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: All-American Medic
These people are out in the middle of a 180 acre wooded area, How does the community know anything illegal is going on out there unless they have been there? Be honest, they are after these people because they dont like what they believe in.

Yes, that's the only reason. Have you ever heard "An it harm none, do thy own will"? That is the fundamental commandment of paganism except for Satanismm it is "Do thy own will shall be the whole of the law". Don't the people of the community have the right to do their own will too? It is their will not to have witches in their community practicing their version of "do thy own will". That is quite a blank check to have and even in a free country there are limitations as to what religious freedom buys you.

50 posted on 11/28/2001 7:40:52 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: All-American Medic
However I defy any religious conservative to defend this town.

Don't look to me. I'm on your side on this one.

The article didn't say it was the religious right, though. I suspect it was, but I'm surprised that the press didn't trumpet it out the wazoo. Is it possible that the local churches had nothing to do with this?

I'm not asking if it's likely, just if it's possible.

Shalom.

152 posted on 11/28/2001 9:01:29 AM PST by ArGee
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To: All-American Medic
However I defy any religious conservative to defend this town.

If this were the federal government closing down this camp, I'd agree with you. The fact that it's the local community doing so, however, is fine by me.

If there was a 'religion' that esposed pedophilia, enjoined its members to public nudity, drunken orgies, etc, are you telling me that the local community is powerless to act against it? If so, you would take us back to the times before 306 AD. And you call us 'reactionary'? Knowing a bit about witchery and what they call 'paganism', it's clear to me that this is less a 'religion' than an excuse to debauch oneself anyway.
177 posted on 11/28/2001 9:29:38 AM PST by Antoninus
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