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1 posted on 11/27/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by expose
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the U.N love this
2 posted on 11/27/2001 1:10:16 PM PST by expose
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I bet you if you were to look through the USA Today archives you would find an editorial praising the Clinton EPA for these new rules.
3 posted on 11/27/2001 1:16:48 PM PST by Dane
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I have a simple solution to that - I drive a 1969 Chevy truck.
It has no computers whatsoever, of course.

My wife's car is a 2001, so we can't escape it from her end.

Oh yeah, I have heard there is an "OBD I" and an "OBD II" system.
Presumably OBD II is newer - it's on my wife's car.

4 posted on 11/27/2001 1:16:55 PM PST by Constitution Day
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ARRGH!!! Anyone who runs on this issue alone, I will vote for.
6 posted on 11/27/2001 1:18:57 PM PST by JmyBryan
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just remove the bulb.
13 posted on 11/27/2001 1:33:34 PM PST by rickmoe
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The so-called smog laws can be summed up in one word - fraud. My encounters with the California Bureau of Automotive Repair in the early 1980's was what started my slide into radical conservatism. Now I damn all liberals - socialism is a disease and liberalism is a mental disorder.
14 posted on 11/27/2001 1:37:18 PM PST by 45Auto
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The smog laws are not about clean air or the environment - they are about money and how to steal more of it from the already tax-overburdened citizens. They are nothing but a license to steal for auto repair shops and government bureaucracies.
16 posted on 11/27/2001 1:40:50 PM PST by 45Auto
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If the program fails to live up to the EPA's billing, it won't be the first time. The agency made similar promises about previous advances in emissions testing. It said these programs would be more reliable and cut pollution by greater amounts — claims that outside studies failed to support.

This paragraph says it all.

I live in a county in GA where emissions testing is mandatory. I don't know how many times I've been behind "bug sprayers" from exempt counties driving here. These people claim to own property in the exempt counties in order to keep these old geezer polluters.

There'll always be a way to beat the new system, too. What a crock.

bump to .45man

21 posted on 11/27/2001 1:50:58 PM PST by dansangel
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If these blow hards want to control emissions, they should shut their traps.

That'd stop all the hot air their blowing up our *ss*s.

24 posted on 11/27/2001 2:19:40 PM PST by Nachum
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Oh geez.
25 posted on 11/27/2001 2:20:08 PM PST by MistyCA
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This article is so poorly written, I hardly know where to begin:

My wife has a 1994 Buick Park Avenue with the 3800 pushrod engine, the last test results from MARTA in Nashville reveal the levels of measured pollutants to be:
HC (% of unburned hydrocarbons) 3; CO (% Carbon Monoxide) 0.00; CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) 14.8.

The "Check Engine" light tests each time the engine is cranked and has never come on while driving. The car has 106,000 miles and has never had any engine repair beyond sparkplugs and a water pump.

In California, no car can pass emissions testing if any of the observable components are defeated, broken or missing, regardless of the tailpipe probe reading.

Idiots know no bounds.

26 posted on 11/27/2001 2:21:13 PM PST by Old Professer
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"If the program fails to live up to the EPA's billing, it won't be the first time."

Eliminate the Environmental Protection Agency and let States decide which of their archaic rules they want to continue enforcing, while eliminating the rest. Plain and simple...and the savings to the average taxpayer may just be enough to allow them the extra money required to buy a new, cleaner call...PROBLEM SOLVED!!

FReegards...MUD

29 posted on 11/27/2001 2:36:42 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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If things keep going the way they are, I'm going to have to put the catalytic converter back on and take the glass packs off my F350.
30 posted on 11/27/2001 2:45:03 PM PST by LoneGOPinCT
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My fleet consists of a 1965 Ford Galaxie, 1968 Merc, 1979 Caddie, 1989 Vovager and a 1989 Tauus SHO.

I paid less then 13,000 for four of these cars over the last four years.

I carry antique insurance on two of them. I dive them for half the year.

I can drive them where and when I want only small a mileage limit.(Which I never come near.)

The insurance costs me 192.00 a year with full coverage on collision. no deductible.

If I could afford a new car guess what? I wouldn't buy one. The property tax alone would be well over 1,000 a year.

32 posted on 11/27/2001 3:13:42 PM PST by #1CTYankee
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Starting next year, drivers of relatively new cars could see those little "check engine" lights illuminating the dashboard turn into an expensive nightmare, thanks to a new system of emissions-control mandates the Environmental Protection Agency is set to unleash on the country.

Heh heh heh...

What "check engine" light??? NO SUCH THING, in my 1968, SS-396 Camaro. BTW, they also can't say a damned thing, about the blower on the top of the engine...

Best thing, is that I can blow away brand-new Vettes (don't even mention Mustangs!), and don't have a car payment!!!

Seems like that gas mileage everybody pokes fun at, is cheaper than the outrageous sticker prices, insurance and now EPA rules.

The EPA can pucker up, and kiss my pasty white butt!

FReegards!!!

41 posted on 11/27/2001 10:27:40 PM PST by Capitalist Eric
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