Posted on 11/27/2001 8:59:52 AM PST by Gritty
FOG - you need to bring your toy up here to Knob Creek.
A good surgeon can cut those birdshot BBs out of your hide.
Stay well - Stay safe- Stay armed - yorktown
I can see that that might be a problem in certain circumstances.
and I've read that the bead is plated at the same time as the barrel and action, so you'd need to crack the nickel if you wanted to put different sights on it.
That, too, could be a problem if that was your goal. I have never re-sighted a shotgun, so it's just not a problem for me.
"Look down deep into your soul: do you know, to the marrow of your bones, that if some bad guy came after you or your family, you'd be able to shoot him or her? Repeatedly, if necessary? If you can answer "Yes", then a firearm is probably a good choice for you. If you know you can't, don't buy a gun! Criminals can sense fear and uncertainty; if you hesitate at The Moment of Truth, your gun may be taken away from you and used to prey on other innocent people. Don't buy a gun if you can't or won't use it."
I have heard this line handed out across the counters at gun stores, etc., and as a Certified Personal Protection Instructor, I disagree.
Firearms ownership is about freedom, and about choice. My recommendation is that if an individual is thinking about getting a firearm, he should get the gun and get the training regardless of whether he or she thinks he or she can pull the trigger. Who knows what he will do when the chips are down? If you have the gun and have the training, when the time comes you have a CHOICE. And if you have the tool as well as the knowledge, attitude, and skills that come from training, the choice is yours. Remember, justification arises from the belief that you or another innocent person will die or suffer great bodily harm if you do not use lethat force. So at that last instant, if you are armed, whether or not you shoot is up to you. You can still choose to die (not shoot). If you don't have the gun, you have no choice or control, and you may not have the option of staying alive.
My experience has been that most people who doubt their ability to use lethal force in self defense simply have not had the issues of justification sufficiently explained to them. Once they understand just how narrow and clear-cut it is, the idea of using a firearm in self defense comes easier.
The argument about the perp getting control of the gun is a concern, but it will only happen if you let it. Besides, what a criminal might do with your personal property after he kills you should not be the determining factor in your having "right to choose" in a lethal confrontation. Even if you are one of us who knows he can pull the trigger, the same thing can happen if you hesitate or get caught by surprise, etc.
The prices can't be beat, either. New or used.
As an avid gun show follower, I agree totally with you. However, I would like to raise a note of caution. And that is the buyer of used firearms needs to beware and understand what he or she is buying.
At the shows I go to I have seen more 38 S&W pistols offered for sale at great prices to people who have no idea how hard it is to get ammo for that anemic cartridge. At the gun range last weekend, a guy bought some 38 Special ammo and then came back saying it wouldn't fit in his revolver. The Rangemaster gave him his money back on the ammo.
I consider myself knowledgable about firearms, but I have actually purchased a used handgun with a safety that didn't totally work right, only to discover much later that I needed to buy some expensive and hard to find parts to make it work as it should. When I examined it at the show and tried the safety everything seemed to work OK.
Some firearms I would have no hesitation in buying used, after I have sat down and carefully examined them looking at all the moving pieces and carefully working the action, safety, etc. Somethings, it is hard to tell until you actually get a handgun to the range, like if the magazine tends to do a bad job of feeding bullets in a semi-automatic and needs to have the feedramp or "lips" adjusted. The gun shows I go to forbid live ammo from being worked in an action and I don't have a handfull of inert rounds.
That is why once you make that purchase you need to really practice with your firearm of choice. At the range I am a member at, the Rangemaster said last weekend that one should fire at least 200 rounds of the same kind of ammo one would use for defence purposes in a semi-automatic to get an "idea" of if there are any reliability problems. Part of why I go to gun shows is so that I can buy my ammo at a discount to allow me to practice at the range.
price is right though at under 400.
Does anyone else around here have links to online gun sales outfits for Clemenza.
While there may be no federal waiting period for long guns, your state may have one.
If I'm not mistaken, California's waiting period is five days for long guns and ten for handguns. (I could be wrong on this; I haven't made a purchase lately.)
Any word on that little project in the woods?
That should be cryptic enough to confuse the others on this thread.
This is the only sentence that aggravates the he!! out of me. People have been using rifles and handguns for more "sport shooting" than shotguns. There are least a dozen different disciplines where rifles and handguns are used. I'm pretty sure that pistol and rifle shooting were Olympic sports long before they introduced trap and skeet. No wonder that the anti's think that a handgun is only used for killing when the writers refuse to print the rifle and handgun sports.
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