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To: LadyDoc
"Indeed, most of these "parents" who kill their kids were druggies."

How do you back up such a claim? The high profile cases, Drexler, Grossberg, Smith, the recent Texas case that claims post-partum depression as a defense... none of these are drug related. Oh yeah... then there's Marie Noe. Remember her? She's the Philadelphia Woman convicted of murdering eight of her nine babies over eight years (the ninth died "mysteriously"). She got house arrest and then probation. I think she should have gotten the pipe.

I don't have a dog in the fight against drugs, but I have an 18 month old son. Infanticide is treated as a personality disorder or illness of the mother. It doesn't even get included in national murder statistics. Let's not take it even further out into psychobabble land by claiming it's simply a substance abuse problem.

18 posted on 11/27/2001 8:48:12 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Harrison Bergeron
How do you back up such a claim?

Statistics. I am using statistics from CASA, but there are plenty of other web sites that have statistics on social problems.

Or just ask you local pastor, or any ER nurse.

seventy percent of children who are abused are abused by a substance abusing adult. Most are not moms with post partum depression, or the cases you read about in the newspapers.

Children with parents who use drugs and heavy alcohol are four times as likely to be abused. Twenty thousand kids are taken from mom because they are obvious addicts. A half a million kids (at least: I believe the actual number is higher) are raised by grandparents, aunts or other relatives because their parents can't do it. I see many kids taken from druggie parents by family pressure but sometimes welfare forceably takes the kids and places them with family. Half a million kids are up for adoption at any one time.

Of course this has nothing to do with your good family. You aren't really your brother's keeper.

19 posted on 11/27/2001 3:37:20 PM PST by LadyDoc
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