[Aurelius]

"Vernon Howell thought he was Jesus Christ, ..." The government put that out and you believed it. It is because the government can count on the likes of you to believe any story that they put out that those 80 some people are dead. Well, don't feel too bad, you share the guilt with a lot of others.

[sinkspur]

It is because the government can count on the likes of you to believe any story that they put out that those 80 some people are dead. Well, don't feel too bad, you share the guilt with a lot of others.

80 people died because Vernon Howell, with the cooperation of the BATF, wanted it. Howell's self-glorification envisioned an immolation of himself and his followers.

If Howell had been any kind of human being, he would have surrendered, and saved the lives of his followers.

Vernon Howell and the BATF are the guilty parties. You can stomp your feet all you want, but nobody else cares.