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To: joathome
Actually, I think I stated that deacons were servants only, and not servant/leaders.

And now you come to the crux of my point. In the Church, leaders are servants. Servants are leaders. This was why Jesus chastized the Apostles who wanted to sit at His right and left hands. They wanted trappings and special treatment at the hands of men. Jesus, our model of leadership, gave all this up.

"If you would be a leader you must serve, and the greatest among you must be the slave of all."

"Just as the Son of man came not to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransome for many."

That's Jesus talking. There is no such thing as "just a servant" in the Church. Servanthood is what the Church is all about. And if you look at history, all true leadership, all true kingship, all true headship in the home, is about serving. Jesus came not to LORD it over us, but to lift us all up to be the most we could be.

Just so you understand - I wear the pants in my family. My wife just tells me which pair.

Shalom.

134 posted on 11/27/2001 10:31:39 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
hehe Good thing, if you're anything like my husband....he can't match a thing. :)

There is a distinction, my friend. I wrote servant/leader precisely because all leaders in the church "are" servants. Not all servants are leaders within the church structure, though. I am NOT a leader of my elders. They are most certainly leaders over me. :) God bless. My suspicions are that you and I basically agree, but that you attend a church with female leadership, and are unwilling to say that it's wrong. Am I very far off base? Oh, well......even if my suspicions are correct, I doubt that you would admit them.

135 posted on 11/27/2001 10:37:05 AM PST by joathome
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