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To: proud2bRC; copycat; GreatOne
Ex-catholic weighing in here:

Does anyone have conversion statistics?

How many convert to catholicism, and from what religion?

How many repent of catholicism, and to which faith do they go?

Your apologetics are not intended to convert those whose hearts and minds are closed (although, by the Grace of God it does indeed happen).

Also gotta ask yourselves; How many people do you drive AWAY from the catholic church with your apologetics? How many solidify their views (against catholicism) based on what they read in the FReeper war posts?

I've read through 500+ posts if the topic is of interest, and I'm learning.

11 posted on 11/26/2001 3:58:18 AM PST by packrat01
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To: packrat01
I don't have stats, but Andrew Sulivan has cited research that shows that fallen away Catholics, unlike those of any other faith, go nowhere. They choose to belong to no organized religion in much greater numbers and percentages than those who have left any other formal religion. These practices are limited in the studt to the U.S. There is also evidence cited that fallen Catholics have a greater rate of return.
14 posted on 11/26/2001 4:09:01 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: packrat01
How many people do you drive AWAY from the catholic church with your apologetics

That is a silly question. The Catholics almost always write calmly and with reason.
Some Protestants write thus also but many write as if they are snarling and pounding their fists upon the table. Catholics here
almost never accuse others of conspiracy and Evil. Many Protestants do just that. If one is attracted to unreasoning fanatics
then Catholic reasonableness may, indeed, drive them away.

15 posted on 11/26/2001 4:15:29 AM PST by arthurus
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To: packrat01
Also gotta ask yourselves

No, I don't.

We're not called to be successful, we're called to be faithful.

How many repent of catholicism

Catholicism, namely the belief in Our Savior Jesus Christ, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, the crucifixion, death, and resurrection, the Second Coming and final Judgement, and all the other "fundamentals" of the fundamentalists is not something of which to repent but something, once found, of which to rejoice.

That said, I did not begin this thread to engage in apologetics with anti-Catholics/ex-Catholics, but to discuss among ourselves methods and outcomes. Therefore I will not engage in further dialogue with you on this thread, for that is not this thread's purpose.

Thank you for your comments, and may God Bless you abundantly.

16 posted on 11/26/2001 4:16:56 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: packrat01
I believe the numbers speak for themselves. Catholicism has had only marginal growth. Evangelical Protestantism has had explosive growth worldwide!

Largest denominational families in U.S., 2001

(self-identification, ARIS)

Denomination 1990 Est.
Adult Pop.
2001 Est.
Adult Pop.
Est. % of U.S. Pop.,
2001
% Change
1990 - 2001
Catholic 46,004,000 50,873,000 24.5% +11%
Baptist 33,964,000 33,830,000 16.3% 0%
Methodist/Wesleyan 14,174,000 14,150,000 6.8% 0%
Lutheran 9,110,000 9,580,000 4.6% +5%
Presbyterian 4,985,000 5,596,000 2.7% +12%
Pentecostal/Charismatic 3,191,000 4,407,000 2.1% +38%
Episcopalian/Anglican 3,042,000 3,451,000 1.7% +13%
Judaism 3,137,000 2,831,000 1.3% -10%
Latter-day Saints/Mormon 2,487,000 2,697,000 1.3% +8%
Churches of Christ 1,769,000 2,593,000 1.2% +47%
Congregational/
United Church of Christ
599,000 1,378,000 0.7% +130%
Jehovah's Witnesses 1,381,000 1,331,000 0.6% -4%
Assemblies of God 660,000 1,106,000 0.5% +68%

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html

EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY HAS EXPLODED in the last 30 years. From 1975 to 1995 alone,...it has increased by 410 million and thereby almost quadrupled in half a generation. The total now stands at 560 million, up from 150 million in 1975. Reliable sources say that around 94,000 people are currently becoming Christians each day. The number of Evangelicals is growing 3 times as fast as the world population The fact that an ever growing percentage of the world population are Evangelical Christians is something which can no longer be overlooked... Conservative estimates made by David Barrett (Atlanta), the leader of the Statistics working group of the Lausanne Movement and publisher of the World Christian Encyclopaedia, show that Evangelical Christians make up around 10 percent of the world population of 5.6 billion.

22 posted on 11/26/2001 4:35:23 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: packrat01
How many convert to catholicism, and from what religion?

How many repent of catholicism, and to which faith do they go?

Not that you're prejudiced or anything.

Shalom.

51 posted on 11/26/2001 6:19:46 AM PST by ArGee
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To: packrat01
Does anyone have conversion statistics?

I have no statistics but I have heard that there has been very strong growth of evangelicals in the hispanic community both in this country and latin America.

Also gotta ask yourselves; How many people do you drive AWAY from the catholic church with your apologetics? How many solidify their views (against catholicism) based on what they read in the FReeper war posts?

I don't think that's a problem, unless you encounter a jack chick type. And for the record every faith has its share of jack chick types.

91 posted on 11/26/2001 7:53:40 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: packrat01
How many repent of catholicism

REPENT of Catholicism? Your bile is leaking.

108 posted on 11/26/2001 3:58:49 PM PST by Petronski
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