Know your enemies/Don Feder: Liberals belong in a cave with Osama

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, November 26, 2001 | Don Feder

[LizM]

So, what would have happened if the USA didn't help Afghanistan resist the Russians in the '80s?

And how could we have known this training would be used against us? I can't see how "their" behavior or choice to accommodate bin Laden and Al Qaeda is the fault of Americans just because we helped them resist the Russians?

[TLBSHOW]

Thats a great one. Let me add THAT they all should be sent to Cuba too!

[anniegetyourgun]

The American Civil Liberties Union finds the prospect "deeply disturbing" and claims such courts would contravene values "central to our democracy."

What the ACLU hasn't figured out is that OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICAN CITIZENS do not belong to foreigners - especially those who kill, maim, rape, and pillage as a way of life.

[ThreeOfSeven]

Ok, One more time. people are responsible for their OWN behavior.

Of course. That's why I look with a critical eye on the policies of the US government. Americans are responsible for the domestic bloat and foreign misadventures of the federal government. Ultimately, we pay for the actions of government.

[wjcsux]

Great article, huge bump!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[okimhere]

I can't help but wonder how many more American symbols would have to come tumbling down, full of our people, before these libs would come to their senses. This article roused so much anger that I found it difficult to finish.

[ThreeOfSeven]

So, what would have happened if the USA didn't help Afghanistan resist the Russians in the '80s?

We'll never know. However, the Northern Alliance is allied with the Russians. So, in a sense, current US policy is the reverse of the earlier US policy. It's not the first time the US government has done a flip-flop when its actions backfired.

And how could we have known this training would be used against us? I can't see how "their" behavior or choice to accommodate bin Laden and Al Qaeda is the fault of Americans just because we helped them resist the Russians?

I don't excuse the Taliban for their misdeeds. However, the Afghans are not primarily responsible for them. The mujahideen, and subsequent Taliban rulers, were imposed on Afghans by foreign powers. As we've seen, the hard core of the Taliban are foreigners, not Afghans.

[ST.LOUIE1]

The American Civil Liberties Union finds the prospect "deeply disturbing"....

The only thing "deeply disturbing" is the ACLUBUMP!

[Fintan]

Thanks! That's been my problem, I guess; not realizing that such stunted intellects could hold two ideas at the same time.

Actually, they can't. It takes conservatives to point these things out to them...;-)

[Grampa Dave]

c14 posted, "If your offended by terrorist bashing, your one of them.""

What an absolutely great comment or comeback for those who support and defend the terrorists!

[Mudboy Slim]

"...a five-day forecast for Afghanistan; the fifth day, illustrated with a mushroom cloud, is 4,500 degrees and sunny."

ROFL...thanks fer the heads-up, JH2, I love Don Feder's work; although I disagree with his down-grading of "...a civil-liberties obsession bordering on fetishism." Personally, I do not believe that retention of our Civil Liberties and National Security are mutually-exclusive goals.

FReegards...MUD

[Mudboy Slim]

"[Don Feder] called liberalism America's homegrown suicide cult and the real threat to our nation's survival. Osama bin Laden isn't the only one who deserves to be hiding in a cave, cowering every time he hears a jet overhead."

Exactly...Osama bin Clinton and his Brain-Dead Lib'ral Sycophants and Defenders on the Left are every bit as dangerous to the long-term vitality of America as the Taliban itself...no, more, much more!!

RE-IMPEACH. CONVICT. DETHRONE.
DISBAR. DE-PENSION. DE-LEGITIMIZE.
INDICT. CONVICT. IMPRISON. DISCARD KEY.

Quite Sincerely...MUD

[Gritty]

...liberalism (is) America's homegrown suicide cult and the real threat to our nation's survival

Truer words were never written! These people and their totalitarian ideas are our real danger. If we don't prevail over them, it will make no difference if we prevail over the terrorists.

[dixiechick2000]

Thanks for the ping, JH2. It's a very good article!

Bump for the VP, cardinal4! He's a good man!

[Victoria Delsoul]

The College Republicans at California Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo have come under fire from the multiculturalist mujahedeen for their patriotic posters. One shows Osama bin Laden on a flying carpet being chased by an F-16. Another has a five-day forecast for Afghanistan; the fifth day, illustrated with a mushroom cloud, is 4,500 degrees and sunny.

I should email this one to Administrator Patricia Harris, hehehe.

[borkrules]

So, in a sense, current US policy is the reverse of the earlier US policy. It's not the first time the US government has done a flip-flop when its actions backfired.

Sigh.

Chomsky would be proud. You're using the exact same thought process to come to your absurd criticism of US foreign policy: acting like the US was the only player on the world stage and did not react to outside stimuli in formulating it's actions.

Here's a quick refresher: during the early 80's, the US and its allies were locked in a vicious cold war with a determined and agressive ideological and military opponent. Failure was NOT an option, as the victory of the USSR would have sentenced the world to communist darkness.

One of the theaters of conflict was Afghanistan, which the USSR had invaded in 1979. The fear was that this was a precursor to other incursions, all with a design on a warm water port for the Soviet Navy. To resist this agression, the US armed and supported a nativist resistance. They succeeded in tying up the Soviet Army for the better part of decade and forcing their eventual withdrawal. Far from being a "failure", US policy in the early and mid-80's was a complete success, when assessed in light of geo-political realities at the time extant.

Today, some of those warriors are a part of the Northern Alliance. Some may be in the Taliban. But my suspicion is that most are anti-taliban, since the Taliban is Pakistani in its origin, and it's principal intellectual support is still from Pakistan, while it gets most of it's financial and military backing from outside Afghanistan.

And, since the Taliban is largely a religious fundamentalist movement, I fail to see how the US is responsible for it's creation. It's only with the addition of al Quaeda, and it's murderous irrationality, that the US has been forced to confront the evil of the repressive Taliban.

In sum, this shit about the US being responsible for the Taliban because of our support of the 80's mujahedin against the USSR is just a pantload.

[ThreeOfSeven]

Obviously, the war to drive the Russians out of Afghanistan occurred in the context of the cold war between the US and the USSR. Nevertheless, the chaos that ensued, with competing mujahideen warlords vying for territory and power, provided an opening for Pakistan (possibly with CIA assistance) to play kingmaker and install the Taliban.

BTW, some of Osama Bin Laden's terrorist skills were acquired courtesy of the CIA. He was one of those mujahideen fighters.

[stands2reason]

LOL! Man, that's brilliant!

[FallGuy]

Thanks for the ping to this read John.