is this guy (on right), one of the two the FBI arrested in New Jersey 10/25
Posted on 11/24/2001 11:40:01 PM PST by Pericles
OKLAHOMA BOMBING LINKED TO BIN LADEN
Reed Irvine
Chairman, Accuracy in Media
November 21, 2001
Soon after the fall of Kabul, journalists discovered two houses in an upscale neighborhood, one bearing the seal of the Taliban and the Ministry of Defense, where a lot of interesting documents, papers and notebooks had been left behind when the Taliban made their hasty departure. On November 17, the New York Times ran a big page-one story by David Rhode on the revelations found in these documents about Al Qaeda’s activities and plans for future terrorist operations, including weapons they were thinking of using. There were references to chemical and biological weapons and even developing nuclear weapons. A page listing flight training schools in Florida torn out of a magazine and a form that comes with the Microsoft Flight Simulator 98 program that simulates flying airliners provided additional evidence linking Osama bin Laden to the Sept. 11 attacks.
The Times followed up with a story the next day that focused mainly on the notes and drawings of one unnamed individual who had described some proposed new weapons that a reporter for the London Sunday Times had described as "unnerving for the layman." The New York Times story by Rhode and James Glanz countered that opinion with evidence provided by scientists that the grandiose weapons for which this individual had drawn up plans were totally impractical.
"But," the Times said, "chemical formulas written by him and by another man, a Bosnian, who left notes behind at the Taliban Defense Ministry in the same quarter of Kabul, show clearly that they knew how to make crude explosives. In an apparent reference to the Oklahoma City bombing by Timothy McVeigh, one chemical formula at the Defense Ministry is annotated in Bosnian, ‘Was used in Oklahoma.’" This had been described toward the end of Rhode’s story the previous day a little differently. Discussing the house that bore the Taliban and Ministry of Defense seals, Rhode had written, "Upstairs, a room labeled ‘special office,’ had been mostly emptied, but numerous papers remained in desk drawers. Most of them were notebooks from students. One gave a detailed description of various ways to make nitroglycerin, dynamite and fertilizer bombs. A note next to one of the explosive formulas said, ‘the type used in Oklahoma.’"
That was the biggest news in the story if the formula was not ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, the ANFO bomb that Timothy McVeigh is supposed to have used to blow up the Murrah Building. "Supposed to have used" has to be said because there is a lot of evidence that an ANFO bomb alone could not have caused all the damage done to the Murrah Building and that smaller powerful bombs inside the building caused much, if not most, of it. Since the ANFO that the FBI says was in the Ryder truck failed to demolish a low concrete wall between it and the building, or knock down a nearby lamp post, it could not have destroyed the more distant reinforced concrete building.
The inspector general of the Justice Department said in his report on the FBI Crime Laboratory that the FBI analysis of the Oklahoma City case "merits special censure" because conclusions about an ANFO bomb were "incomplete," "inappropriate," "flawed," and nonscientific.
If Al Qaeda knew more than the FBI about the formula for the bombs used in Oklahoma City, that would show that it was involved in the bombing. The New York Times failed to acknowledge this, perhaps because its story did not make it crystal clear that the notation, "the type used in Oklahoma," meant that in Oklahoma, bombs made of nitroglycerin, dynamite and ammonium nitrate (a fertilizer), not just ANFO, were used.
A London Sunday Times story featured the information about the Oklahoma bomb and made it clear that the formula was not ANFO. It said, "On one page, under the title Explosivija za Oklahomu, the owner of the notebook had scribbled formulas with inscriptions in English for TNT, ammonium nitrate and nitroglycerine. The Oklahoma bomb was made from ammonium nitrate and fuel oil."
That made it clear that there was a difference, but the story didn’t discuss its signifi-cance—the revelation that more sophisticated bombs were used in Oklahoma City and bin Laden knew it. This suggests that the Murrah Building was his second attack on a U.S. building. Many people saw swarthy John Does with McVeigh and Nichols. It is believed that they are shown on surveillance tapes the FBI seized. The Kabul discovery should force the release of those tapes and a revival of the search for the John Does.
Reed Irvine can be reached at ri@aim.org
is this guy (on right), one of the two the FBI arrested in New Jersey 10/25
Simple! He knew what would befall every member of his family and all close friends!
You're probably right about that. Isn't it amazing that we now have had 4 consecutive administrations with very very close ties to that little town in Arkansas called Mena.
Just a coincidence I'm sure. Or maybe it is now a requirement that you have a Mena background to qualify for office.
THE RFK CONNECTION: A reader alerts me to an interesting quote buried deep in the Wall Street Journal's Monday edition. It's a wiretapped quote from the blind Sheik Omar who was discussing whether Islamic law would allow a bombing of the F.B.I.'s New York offices. "Slow down; slow down a bit," the spiritual leader says. "The one who killed Kennedy was trained for three years." Hmmm. Which Kennedy? Trained by whom? - 11/27/2001 01:12:58 AM
I wonder if the CIA's protectiveness towards Islamofascists might be the result of uses that they have made of them in the past.
As for what it means, I don't know whether the reference is to the assassination of JFK or RFK. You'd think just a reference to the killer of "Kennedy" would refer to the JFK assassination, but Rahman would, you'd think, be much more likely to know that Sirhan Sirhan was in training for three years. Whichever brother is meant, the thought that preparations would have started to be made for their assassination three years before it occurred has interesting implications.
OKC Mideast Evidence Suppressed
The Sunday Times of London reported on November 18th that a notebook found in an al-Qaeda safe house in Kabul contained bomb-making instructions and references to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. The notebook was found, along with stores of weapons and chemicals, in a Kabul mansion that had been occupied by Osama bin Laden’s recruits from Somalia, Algeria, Bosnia, Uzbekistan, Sudan, and the Dagestan region of Russia.
The Times reported: "On one page, under the title ‘Explosivija za Oklahomu,’ the owner of the notebook had scribbled formulas with inscriptions in English for TNT, ammonium nitrate and nitro-glycerine." "The Oklahoma bomb may have been a topic of study only because it demonstrates how much damage a simple bomb can create. But there is a more intriguing possibility," noted the Times. "Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, his accomplice, were responsible for the Oklahoma bomb. Several investigators pointed out that Nichols had spent time in the Philippines and met members of Abu Sayyaf, an Islamic group connected to Bin Laden. Suggestions that the two bombers had been manipulated by an Arab terror cell were rejected by the FBI, but are still a source of speculation in America."
The evidence amassed concerning a Middle Eastern connection in the OKC bombing (much of which has been reported in these pages) goes far beyond mere "speculation." Many people had held high hopes that this evidence, "rejected by the FBI" under the Bill Clinton-Janet Reno reign, would be acted on under the new Bush-Ashcroft management. But the Department of Justice (DOJ) under Ashcroft is following the Reno script on OKC. On October 29th, Oklahoma Judge Ray Dean Linder ruled that, because of objections from the Bush-Ashcroft DOJ, retired FBI Agent Dan Vogel would not be allowed to testify about evidence he had received concerning Mideast connections to the OKC bombing. Vogel, an Oklahoma City FBI Special Agent, had volunteered to testify in the upcoming state trial of Terry Nichols, who has already been convicted on federal charges as an accomplice with Timothy McVeigh in the bombing.
Among the things that Mr. Vogel could testify about is the fact that he received 22 affidavits and more than 30 witness statements describing sightings of Middle Easterners with McVeigh. The information was transmitted to him at the FBI’s Oklahoma City office on January 28, 1999 by Oklahoma City television reporter Jayna Davis, accompanied by her husband, Drew Davis, and her attorney, Dan Nelson.
Mr. Vogel has said that he is willing to testify before a congressional committee if he is subpoenaed to do so. Constituents should demand that members of Congress explain why hearings are not already underway for Mr. Vogel and other FBI agents who have come forward with suppressed evidence on the OKC and September 11th attacks.
Sure! That is why the government razed the building and covered the debris.
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