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1 posted on 11/24/2001 8:52:54 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: big ern
BTTT
2 posted on 11/24/2001 8:55:14 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: big ern
While consequences of the bombing have been different than peace activists imagined, they are not backing down. The values behind their beliefs, they say, still ring true: violence eventually begets more violence and love always overcomes hate.

And they are just counting the days until the next WTO meeting so they can hit the streets with rocks and bottles to do battle with the police.

3 posted on 11/24/2001 8:57:23 AM PST by 07055
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To: big ern
Just like it would have been immoral to not help Western Europe beat back the Nazi's, it would be immoral to do nothing after thousands of innocent civilians were killed.

These people are NOT the thoughtful, gentle, people depicted by this article. They are immoral, spineless sluggards who do not deserve to live under the protection of the United States of America!

4 posted on 11/24/2001 9:04:42 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: big ern
I saw some of these losers while driving to my mom's for Thanksgiving. Bumper stickers and signs that said, "Justice not War" and other stupid phrases.

And the PETA people were out with their "Thankgiving is no holiday for turkeys" and 40 million turkeys die for your dinner" signs.

I got them waving at me then gave them the finger. But then again I'm a hater.

5 posted on 11/24/2001 9:05:33 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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Marchers struggled to find appropriate songs to sing during the procession from one Capitol Hill cathedral to another. But the peace-song playlist was of golden oldies, stuck in the Vietnam era.

So marchers began to sing "America the Beautiful," Boonstra recalled. And that troubled one of the marchers.

As a (seemingly) rare non-left-wing folkie, I'd say this is major. One of leftist credos is that their ability to find the right song to argue with is evidence they are correct. The fact that they are struggling to do so is a major blow to their faith.

8 posted on 11/24/2001 9:10:48 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: big ern
the title is very accurate.

liberal are having more difficulty in raising money for their stupid ideas. people are beginning to get fed up with taxes. now they are resorting to 'fund raising' to gather more funds to take away more freedoms and impose even further on our economy.

they just don't get it.

11 posted on 11/24/2001 9:16:58 AM PST by mlocher
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To: big ern
The values behind their beliefs, they say, still ring true: violence eventually begets more violence and love always overcomes hate.

Someone's been watching *way* too much TV...

13 posted on 11/24/2001 9:22:33 AM PST by Dan Day
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I'm all for love overcoming hate and peace instead of war.

But war was declared on us. It was actually done officially by bin Laden and his al Qeada buddies in 1996 when they issued a fatwa calling for the death of America and its allies--civilian and military. We took the peaceful approach, ignoring this decree, offering aid, etc., but to no avail. So what other choice did we have?

As a Christian I do believe in beating swords into plow-shares, turning the other cheek, loving your enemies, that blessed are the peace makers, etc.. So in a way I do agree with the peace groups. But we live in a dangerous world where some people are psychotic. So I believe we had no choice and are doing the right thing.

16 posted on 11/24/2001 10:08:23 AM PST by garycooper
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"violence eventually begets more violence "

On September 11, 5,000 people were brutally murdered by the single largest act of violence this country has ever endured.

As a result of this violent act, the US is bombing the SH*T out of the Taliban. Yep, violence begat violence, all right. The Taliban deserves what they get.

19 posted on 11/24/2001 10:24:59 AM PST by cake_crumb
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love always overcomes hate

An armed street gang surrounds you and moves in for the kill--will love overcome hate?

Hitler's armies invade Poland--will love overcome hate?

India is given independence in 1949--and Hindus and Moslems begin slaughtering each other. This is a hatred that hasn't cooled for more than fifty years. Will love overcome hate?

Israel vs. Palestine

Iran vs. Iraq

African tribe X vs. African tribe Y

Need I go on?

One can only presume that these liberals either are visiting from another planet--or have been the victims of mass lobotomy.
22 posted on 11/24/2001 10:32:06 AM PST by cgbg
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BTT and bookmarked for later read.
23 posted on 11/24/2001 10:36:10 AM PST by Neets
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To: big ern
bump for later reading
24 posted on 11/24/2001 11:38:08 AM PST by brooklin
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To: big ern
I wonder how long they will stay on their drug trip?If they sober up long enough maybe someone should tell them this is no longer 1968!
26 posted on 11/24/2001 1:35:09 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: big ern
Those peaceniks, sound like they are stuck in the hippie era, haven't they watched the world go-round, all that love just got us more hate.
32 posted on 11/25/2001 6:54:00 AM PST by Great Dane
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