Posted on 11/23/2001 6:26:38 AM PST by wwjdn
Edited on 05/07/2004 6:21:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
A sign outside a Wilder church stirred a flurry of controversy this week, causing passersby to complain about anti-Muslim sentiment.
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Truth
Absolutely the truth, and I don't care what illbay thinks about it. I am not into political correctness. I wish the pastor and his church well, he is only telling the truth, and the truth hurts sometimes, but such is life.
Next the week the sign will say, "The spirit of Judaism is the spirit of the antichrist."
The following week, it will say, "The spirit of Hinduism is the spirit of the antichrist."
The week after that, you will be treated to, "The spirit of Buddism is the spirit of the antichrist.
Mohammed Kureishi: "Islam is fundamentally opposed to democracy. Democracy is law by the people, of the people, for the people. No. We want the law by Allah, for the people. It's man-made law versus divine law. You can't have both."
Mohammed Kureishi goes on: "The objective of a caliphate is to make Islam dominate the world. The filth of capitalism dominates the world and should be eradicated."Message to Mayor - they will come for you too!
...and you prove once again that......it takes one, to know one.
Well...actually...the freedom of religion is from the perspective of governmental control. The Church isn't part of the government, so that isn't a problem. As for tolerance...again, I must disagree. The US was founded on Christian principles; in fact, until JFK there was a rather broad prejudice against Catholics. I would also point out that if one is in fact a Christian, then accepting islam as equally legitimate is in direct and substantial conflict with established Christian doctrine.
Sorry, that should be ADJECTIVE...first post of the day.
So? He runs a Christian church. They reach about Christ. I still don't see a problem here.
Islam is hate, the others are not.Maybe that's why he chose it for his sermine.
He has the right.If people don't like it, don't read the sign.
Show me where our founding documents say that we, as individuals or groups, have to "tolerate" any religions or creeds.
I don't have to "tolerate" a religious group that would include child sacrifice among their sacraments, for instance.
Neither do I have to "tolerate" a religion that espouses death for unbelievers and genital mutilation for young girls.
And this is why the constitution protects churches from government.
That's not a good idea from an ambassadorial standpoint. This sign will turn into West-hating propaganda, and proof that this was IS against Islam, thus turning all Muslims against all Christians and probably bringing about Armaggeddon. A Christian partor is an ambassador of the Christian faith. What was this pastor thinking?
Guess John would consider YOU antichrist also, illbay.
Oh good! Another anti-liberal. Thank you.
TRUTH
Over and over, the message of antichrist about Christians was that they were spreaders of "hate," enemies of "peace and harmony," yada yada ad nauseum. Given the way "hate" is constantly thrown around now when someone dares speak Biblical truth, I think they've painted a very realistic scenario of how things could unfold.
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This message is true of Islam. They do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God. They say so.
Historic Christianity has held to the trinity from the foundation of the Church. The Apostle John held that those who denied the divinity of Christ were part of the spirit of antichrist which was already in the world in his day.
The Pastor was merely quoting what the Muslims proclaim! And, yet, look at the Pastor bashing and Gospel bashing on this thread! Woe unto you who call evil good and good evil. Woe unto you.
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they areJews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Who ( what people ) was He speaking to at that time ? Let's be honest here. God will not be mocked !!
1 John 4: 2-3 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Spreading the word of God? Odd a Partor would try to get away with that!! Bring in the liberal trial lawyers. This man must be stopped. Someone may have been "offended" , and we have "offened" laws in our New Socialist regime! Someone stop that man!!
This pretty well limits those worthy of the anti-Christ label to Islamists and the secular State Church.
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