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Evangelist Graham in Presidential Hot Water Over Comments
Agape Press ^ | 11/20/01

Posted on 11/21/2001 9:28:59 AM PST by truthandlife

In what is believed to be a first in American history, there were prayers to Allah last night at the White House where President Bush hosted a formal Ramadan celebration with dozens of Muslim leaders.

The Ramadan event was another effort by the Bush Administration to prove its war on terrorism is not a war against Islam. However, conservative voices like Gary Bauer have been sharply critical of that effort. He says he has heard from a number of people within the U.S. intelligence community who are shocked and demoralized that some of the Muslim leaders who have been spending time with the President have been known to speak out in favor of terrorism.

Bauer notes that while these people are getting the red carpet treatment at the White House, reports indicate the President is distancing himself from one of the country's best-known evangelicals. According to reports, Franklin Graham upset the Bush Administration when he recently referred to Islam as being "wicked, violent, and not of the same God."

photo of Franklin GrahamShortly after the attacks of September 11, Graham had commented, "I don't believe [Islam] is a wonderful, peaceful religion." Asked by NBC News on Friday to clarify his statement, he repeated his charge that Islam, as a whole, was evil.

"It wasn't Methodists flying into those buildings, it wasn't Lutherans," he told NBC News. "It was an attack on this country by people of the Islamic faith."

In a follow-up statement yesterday, Graham said he is deeply concerned with "the teachings of Islam regarding the treatment of women, and the killing of non-Muslims or infidels."

The son of Rev. Billy Graham and the designated successor of his father's extensive evangelical ministry, Graham delivered the benediction at Bush's inauguration in January. As NBC News observed, "A presidential friend and supporter now finds himself at odds with both the Muslim world and the message from the White House." But conservative columnist Chuck Baldwin calls Graham "a breath of fresh air" for standing firm and not apologizing for his statements.

Meanwhile, The New York Times reports a Muslim advocacy organization has sent a letter to Graham inviting him to meet with them to discuss his remarks. In the letter, Nihad Awad of the Council on America-Islamic Relations says, "Negative impressions of Islam are most often based on a lack of accurate and objective information."

Positive Outcome
As a national holiday approaches, President Bush says Americans of various faiths will be "joined in prayer" this Thanksgiving. "On this holiday, we give thanks for our many blessings and for life itself," Bush said. "Thanksgiving reminds us that the greatest gifts don't come from the hands of man, but from the Maker of heaven and earth. This week, American families will gather in that spirit."

Since the September terrorist attacks, church attendance has increased and there have been more prayer gatherings on Capitol Hill. Evangelist Pat Robertson believes people have been shocked into examining what their true values are.

"What we're seeing is that this awful attack, as horrific ... and as heart-rending [as it was], is bringing about one of the greatest spiritual revivals in the history of America," Robertson says. "[T]he churches are full ... people are turning to God, they're turning to their families, they're turning to the fundamental values, and they're getting away from all this fluff of the last decade."

Robertson made his comments today on CNN.


AgapePress writers Fred Jackson, Jim Duke,


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To: truthandlife
To be crassly political about it for one moment...

The President stands to lose far more by alienating his Christian base than he could ever hope to gain by continuing to hold Islam up as something other than the Fascist, Nazi ideology that it is.

The administration should realize that this is no small matter to the grassroots of the GOP.

101 posted on 11/21/2001 12:02:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: truthandlife
I like Graham (the younger) more with each passing day. For victory & freedom!!!
102 posted on 11/21/2001 12:02:17 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: RnMomof7
And so even if he did; well he disobeyed Christ. But Christians, this side of heaven, have a sin nature as well as a redeemed nature. Disobedience is possible for a Christian. If you judge that Bush is not a Christian because of such a sin, then be careful that someone (not God, but enough to cause you real heartache) doesn't declare YOU out of the Christian fold because of some sin of yours. What goes around comes around honey.
103 posted on 11/21/2001 12:03:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: RnMomof7
How narrow minded and intolerant of you.

Don't ya just love that one Mom. :)

BigMack

104 posted on 11/21/2001 12:04:43 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: RnMomof7
Ditto,there is a big difference..W is promoting and encouraging a false heathan religion..he is not giving them the gospel! In fact he is letting them give their false gospel in his house from his podium.....

Big difference

As a believer in Jesus Christ I could not do that could you?

No, I could not. But even Christians can foul up royally. There is a man, a mere man, who has the weight of the world on his shoulders and no doubt advice coming from every place imaginable. I believe having the prayer service was wrong. I will not pat the President on the back for doing it. I am also not happy with the continual preaching of "Islam is a peaceful religion" when in fact it is one of the bloodiest and Satanic religions ever. However, I will not stand here and say President Bush is not a Christian, because up until now he has given strong evidence of being a Christian. Is he ill-advised? Yeah. Is he treading on dangerous spiritual ground. Yes. But this does not mean he is not a Christian. I've never seen him as having a super strong spiritual foundation, but I do believe he knows the Lord. Unfortunately, he is way off base here and rather than condemn him as a reprobate, we should pray with one voice that all voices of deception will be made to be of none effect in his administration and that he stands courageously for the ONE TRUE GOD, Jesus Christ.
105 posted on 11/21/2001 12:05:43 PM PST by DittoJed2
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To: RickyJ
Did you know that Billy Graham quit out of Bob Jones University with Bob Jones Sr. declaring that he would simply be an "utter failure." I never heard of Jones apologizing for that even when he was proven totally wrong.
106 posted on 11/21/2001 12:07:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Diverdogz
"Maybe there is a cook, but I'm not sure whether it is Emmeril, Julia Child, Maria Calendar or Chef Boy-ar-Dee."

The obvious flaw in your logic is that all of the above can legitimately be admitted to be true cooks, while there is but one God, who has reveiled hinself through fulfilled prophecy in one and only one book, which has survived the test of time, events, and proof.

107 posted on 11/21/2001 12:07:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Bush bowed his head but did not close his eyes during a prayer offered by Imam Abdullah Muhammad Khouj, who asked Allah to "make us true believers."

Link here

Again, either this is an empty PHOTO OP or something more.

This is America. He has the right to make his declaration of faith at this gathering. He chose not to. He has not verbally denied Jesus or God but made a visual effort to side with a "false god".

108 posted on 11/21/2001 12:07:47 PM PST by weegee
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To: Diverdogz
How narrow minded and intolerant of you

No how scripitual of me! You may not like the word of God.You may not read it or follow it..but it is still the word of God..

I have one King and that King is Jesus! I have a temporal government..but it is just that temporal.

If W was a Christian he would not have compromised his faith that way...He would not be the cheerleader and chief for Islam in America...

There were other ways to handle this politically..but he chose the one that most was in conflict with the word of God..

109 posted on 11/21/2001 12:08:03 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: XeniaSt
My Bible says that anybody that confesses Jesus Christ is Lord and is born again is a believer. I believe that includes methodists as well as any other followers of the Lamb, your audacity to judge him shows a lack of Biblical understanding to judge anybody.God is judge ,we are simply to be bond servants of Christ.
110 posted on 11/21/2001 12:12:52 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Media2Powerful
What the heck do people expect him it say?

There was not need of him saying anything. What Graham did say was not very Christ like. IMHO, he is poor representitive for Christians.

111 posted on 11/21/2001 12:13:31 PM PST by pcl
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To: RnMomof7
There were other ways to handle this politically..but he chose the one that most was in conflict with the word of God..
Since you have been a Christian, you have never handled something in a way contrary to God's Word?
112 posted on 11/21/2001 12:13:46 PM PST by DittoJed2
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And so even if he did; well he disobeyed Christ. But Christians, this side of heaven, have a sin nature as well as a redeemed nature. Disobedience is possible for a Christian. If you judge that Bush is not a Christian because of such a sin, then be careful that someone (not God, but enough to cause you real heartache) doesn't declare YOU out of the Christian fold because of some sin of yours. What goes around comes around honey.

Yes we are all sinners...and all our righteousness is as filthy rags to our Holy God.

We are not talking about sin here we are talking about denial of the person of Jesus Christ..selling the birthright of America for some pottage. Like Judas selling Jesus for 30 pieces of silver..

This was going to be a difficult line to walk..but instead of even trying he just caved into the moon god..

So next time W says god bless America..ask yourself which god he is calling on.Cause that is now a question..

113 posted on 11/21/2001 12:14:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: DittoJed2
The "Islam is a peaceful religion" comment does not come from an ignorance of the Islamic violence committed around the world daily. It's ludicrous to think that Bush would be that obtuse. It looks to me more like a triangulation statement. He's making a remark about what normative Islam practice ought to be. And since Muslim leaders across the world are trying to pose themselves as "peaceful," Bush is positioning world opinion to force them to live up to that claim.

I say the REAL translation of that remark is "Drop the mad dog stuff. Double quick. Or face the wrath of the world."

114 posted on 11/21/2001 12:15:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
How narrow minded and intolerant of you.
Don't ya just love that one Mom. :)
BigMack

It is ONE of my favorites :>)

Have a Blessed Thanksgiving!

115 posted on 11/21/2001 12:15:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: HiTech RedNeck
" Look up Thomas Jefferson's philosophies"

I have. - - All of the diestic quotes that the Leftist media are so proud to parade before the public as indicative of Jefferson's spirituality were made in his youth. - His later quotes are solidly Christian, so are never repeated by the pink press.

Were you unswervingly correct in your faith at age 20?

116 posted on 11/21/2001 12:16:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: RnMomof7
"If W was a Christian he would not have"

I wonder who you believe really is a Christian. You and who else? Clinton?

117 posted on 11/21/2001 12:16:33 PM PST by pcl
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To: mountaineer
..the most, he might disagree (although I doubt he does so privately).

Are you suggesting that when Bush publicly disagreed he was telling a lie? Are you suggesting that Bush really thinks Islam is a false religion to a false god?

118 posted on 11/21/2001 12:17:27 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: RnMomof7
Show us again, where Bush either called Islam true, or agreed with their prayers. I would put money that Dubya prayed to Christ when those guys were praying to Allah.

Get a documented statement out of Bush that Allah is equivalent to Jesus and I would change my mind. Not until.

119 posted on 11/21/2001 12:17:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: pcl
There was not need of him saying anything. What Graham did say was not very Christ like. IMHO, he is poor representitive for Christians.

I agree that there is a time to be silent. However, I respectfully disagree that Graham had any obligation to in this instance. I also find the man very very Christ like. He can represent my version of Christianity any day of the week. (my husband has worked his crusades before and even considered going to work for his ministry "samaritans purse" but they didn't pay enough). He's a wonderful Christian and is simply preaching the Gospel - Christ crucified. It is not an all inclusive message, but it is not the message of Jihad Islam is. (and I defend the right of Muslims to believe whatever they want).

120 posted on 11/21/2001 12:20:36 PM PST by Media2Powerful
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