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1 posted on 11/18/2001 8:21:46 AM PST by Jean S
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Jeff Jacoby is a bald-faced liar.

Prince Abdullah and King Fahd immediately called President Bush and expressed condolences, outrage and support followed by correpondence reinterating same.

The Saudi Embassy in DC website posted a letter to Americans expressing their grief, condolences and support.

Every Saudi website I have checked (and I have checked plenty) have expressed their outrage and grief over the lives lost and the destruction of Sept 11th.

2 posted on 11/18/2001 8:33:21 AM PST by Patria One
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The make nice policy of world politics is going to get this country destroyed.

The cold hard facts:

No Islamic can be a true friend to a non-Islamic.
No Islamic is bound by an agreement with a non-Islamic.
Conflict is guaranteed as long as there are Islamics. They are commanded to convert, kill, or enslave.
ect, ect, ect, ..........

How can the non-Islamic world deal with the Islamic world?

Use a big stick its the only realistic choice.
22 posted on 11/18/2001 9:24:12 AM PST by hsszionist
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The Saudi regime is corrupt and repressive. I wish Mrs Bush had mentioned their treatment of women in her address yesterday. Of course they expressed regret at 9/11 - they stand to suffer all kinds of financial losses when NYC goes through tough times. To get some idea of how much of NYC they own think on this: They pay $90 million in taxes every year! The 5-7,000 Saudi princes are corrupt, spoiled, repressive, pampered, and whatever they say they are no true friends of the US and in fact the antithesis of everything we stand for. (Except oil of course.) When will we wake up and shed these corrupt and evil people? They fund the ant-American flames around the world, they discriminate, exploit and repress. They are not our true friends at all. They are evil.
23 posted on 11/18/2001 9:24:29 AM PST by Gimlet
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Regretably, Patria One is a bald-faced liar.

There are lies and damned lies, and this lie is particularly damnable, because the security of the United States and its citizens is at stake.

President Bush has made it clear that he was willing to forgive mistakes, even grievous mistakes, that occurred before September 11, if guilty countries repent their earlier behavior and start to behave decently. Saudi Arabia hasn't done that.

Saudi Arabia remains a festering sore, the central problem that remains to be dealt with. One way or another, it MUST be dealt with. Maybe there's still time for the Saudi Royal family to repent and amend their ways, but frankly I doubt it. One way or another, Saudi Arabia must be firmly changed. My own suggestion is to split the country in two, one with the oil, the other with the Holy Sites. One with political power, the other with religious authority, much as was done with the Vatican when Italy was unified under secular politicians. Saudi Arabia as it stands today is too dangerous to the health of the whole world and to our very survival to be left alone to behave as it has in the past and continues do do today.

The Bush family have longstanding connections and friendships with the Saudi royal family. I hope President Bush understands that he and his country have been stabbed in the back by the Saudis. It may still be possible to forgive that act, but only if the Saudis amend their ways, and not by putting more pathetic ads in the newspapers boasting about their enlightened friendship with the U.S.

30 posted on 11/18/2001 10:03:02 AM PST by Cicero
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To JeanS,The Saudis(as well as the other so-called moderate Arab countries)have finally removed their collective masque.They are not now(and they have never been)disposed towards us.We developed their oil riches and we have protected same.In exchange for this largess(on our part),we are greeted by the phony shortages of the 1970's and periodic cut-backs in production(all designed to suit their ends).It's past time that we woke up and developed our estimable resources so that we can't be held hostage by our "FRIENDS"in the middle-east!!!
37 posted on 11/18/2001 10:14:59 AM PST by bandleader
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Excuse me, but how many of the terrorists on Sept 11 were Saudis? Face reality -- Saudis have been growing cancer cultures. As long as they do so, they have to be considered cancer agents. No doctor in the world would hesitate to eradicate cancer cells. Cut the crap. If the Saudis want to perpetuate Anti-American teaching in these radical Islam schools, then let's put them on the terrorist list and take the oil. Without oil, these guys are just more Islam RagHeads tolerating, if not fostering, anti-American attitudes, hatred -- in a religion that is anti-woman but tolerant of boy buggering, with a nasty violent political streak of religious bigotry just to top it off. Not a pretty picture, no matter how many PR pages are bought in the leftist NY Times. Sorry. How do you spell "ATTA"?
54 posted on 11/18/2001 10:39:38 AM PST by jrlc
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It is time to face the truth about our Saudi ''friends:'' Their money, their diplomacy, their politics, and above all their Wahhabi strain of Islam - extremist, intolerant, aggressive, and poisonously anti-Western - made Sept. 11 possible. The Taliban and Al Qaeda represent not perversions of Wahhabism but its full flowering

He makes good points, BUT the fact is we made it possible too. First, our dependence on oil makes us look the other way and cozy up to the Saudis. More importantly, in our myopic foreign policy (based on knee-jerk reactions rather than a vision), we made the Taliban and helped Islamic fundamentalism grow from Afghanistan to Bosnia. Today, we are trying to patch together a "stable" government there. Well, Afghanistan was stable, but it was pro-Soviet. So, we destabilized it by paying thungs and criminals and religious fanatics to do the dirty work for us, just as we are doing with the Northern Alliance (the truth about them is well kept back from the unsuspecting public, just as the truth about Saudi Aarabi is).

The fact is, we didn't care about human rights abuses in Afghanistan until it hit home. No president's wife stood up to condmen the Taliban and its treatement of women, or forcing foreigners to wear arm bands, public executions, etc. No, we used to call them "freedom fighters."

It's time to clean up the world, but we should start at our own door steps by practicing what we preach.

101 posted on 11/18/2001 2:33:27 PM PST by kosta50
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