Flight 587 Video Shows 'Puff of Smoke' in Sky

Newsmax ^ | November 17, 2001 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

[jlogajan]

Thanks for the great link. Those fractured brackets are sure telling. Looks like simple mechanical failure to me. But of course, I don't wrap tinfoil around my head, so I'm not tuned into the same frequency as some of the others on this forum.

[Ben Bolt]

You'r 1st paragraph I totally relate , lol ! I have agreement with paragraph 2 . I believe Mr. Schippers is on top of his situation indeed . Flight #587 , is a toss up with me . I know there are learned folks here and especially on this subject . I read what Alamo - Girl built and there is so much credibility here . Those folks have lied in the past in and out of office , but like you I'll form my own opinion and I am here to learn .

[Ben Bolt]

Damn .. And I had hoped for something from him with all of the data supplied to him . Oh well , I'll forge onward with or without his / her support . Don't lol .. I really did ! Frankly , I appreciate what you offered . Mucho obliged , silvertip .

[Silvertip]

Thanks.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks, CRA! I'll see if my feeble brain can comprehend any of this "War & Peace" expose. ;-)

I sent a copy of it to a mechanical engineer friend of mine also.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

What would have seperated the vertical tail cleanly (no burns or symptoms of explosion) PRIOR?

That didn't happen. Upon hearing of the explosion through "sources" the FBI sped to the crash site, grabbed the crumpled stabilizer, threw it on a flat bed, covered it with a tarp, and whisked it away to an unknown, secure location. Meantime, another team of FBI agents had attached a mockup tail fin to a crane and dropped it into Jamaca Bay while everyone was watching news of the crash on television. They spread rumors of the tail section coming off in flight and then said, "Hey, everybody, overhere!" Once the TV cameras arrived they lifted the tail section out of the water.

It is not hard to unravel these conspiracies once you know how these people think.

[Rokke]

"I think the poster was trying to say was to be a 'lil more ambitious and to maybe take some initiative . If you want something done , then get started ! If not , then stay where you are in you'r life . no harm done usually . Just dont expect a hug from people who think beyond the double yellow line . Just an observation .."

Oh. Thanks for the clarification. I completely agree. From now on, everytime someone makes an asinine claim they are unable to support, I will exercise even more inititiative then giving them specific numbers proving they are wrong (ref post 114), and instead make up an equally asinine and unsupportable claim so idiots like you can imagine they live a life weaving across double yellow lines.

[Jhensy]

Alright, I've lost patience. Is this some kind of Zen-existentialist torture experiment you're trying out on us? I want to know what happened to Flight 587. You show me pictures of fins, rudders, stabilizers. Bolts. Laminates. Gotcha. WHAT THE F*CK AM I LOOKING AT? WHAT?! You link me to that turbulence primer from 2 days ago. I've waded through 267 posts on this frickin' thread and I still have NO IDEA what your conclusion is!

Freeper 1: Interesting pictures, what is your interpretation?
Jimhotep: See the pictures.

Freeper 2: Yes, we see them, what do you mean?
Jimhotep: Be the pictures.

Freeper 3: Argh, what's your game, man?
Jimhotep: Ask yourself this question. Recall the fable of the monkey and the aerospace engineer...

[Ben Bolt]

I admire your patience , but he wont get it .

[Rokke]

"Conspiracy nuts ? Because something in life happens to be out of you'r realm , we are all branded nuts ? I have empathy for you . You have some data before you thank's to others , so think what you will ."

I had to go back and read your previous post to me. Having re-read it, I now remember why I didn't respond. I didn't respond because I couldn't figure out what you were trying to say. I still can't. Empathy?!?! Anyway, the only data on this topic (TWA800) presented by anyone on this thread is the unsupported "Hundreds" of witnesses, and the 7 witnesses listed in the WT ad. It took me 2 seconds to consider that data. My post #91 stands uncontested.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thank you for the ping. Yes please keep me on your list, pretty please. thank you.

You're always on my good list, Snow Bunny! ;-)

[Ben Bolt]

My goodness .. Are you emotionally arrested ? You seem to be so focused on You , that the simple message was totally over your pathetic 'lil pea brain . Go pee in a bottle you self absorbed jackass . Beyond that , How you really doing ?

[chadsworth]

Regarding an eyewitness report on FLT 800.

The Eyewitness Evidence of Flight 800

"Of the 183 who observed a streak of light, 102 gave information about the origin of the streak. Six said the streak originated from the air, and 96 said that it originated from the surface."

-- NTSB exhibit 4A: Witness Group Factual Report

Flight 800 Witness Comments

[Ben Bolt]

See above , perhaps ?

[Rokke]

See post 114 perhaps?

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Right. Blame the crew, not the plane. Sorry, I don't buy it.

As I recall, the first A300 in its debut at the Paris Airshow was showing off its state-of-the-art flight control system and flew itself into the trees. The pilot was their best and most experienced, their head pilot, and he said he could not regain control of the plane to correct its course. They blamed him and fired him in disgrace. Now why would a pilot with his experience and reputation risk death and dishonor, as well as loss of a high paying job and pension, to fly a plane ionto the ground and lie about it? Not likely to happen.

[Ben Bolt]

No .. you do not steer me to what you want me to think . You can take this personnal or not , I could give a rip either way . Just stay you and I am certain you will win in the bigger picture . < sac off > , so to speak .

[hattend]

And flight TWA 800 went down how??? Hundreds of witnesses saw that missile, but of course, NTSB provided the evidence there too!

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the NTSB pulled off the case by the FBI about 2 or 3 days after the crash? All evidence after that came from the FBI and CIA.

I'll have to pull out my Flight 800 book again to check for sure.

[Rokke]

Too bad. Post 293 which you directed me to, is virtually identical to my post 114 which was posted several hours ago. If you agree with post 293, than you and I have more in common than you may want to believe.