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Freeper Research on the Anthrax Perp
Various FR Posters | 11/15/01 | Various FR Posters

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language, he may be a proficient computer user or coder especially if Al Queda.

He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems – of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures.

He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Malik’s help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax.

There probably are other people in his cell who may already be in custody - one with Florida license plates and others from Canada.

Several arrests of Pakistani nationals were made in Trenton/Hamilton two weeks ago --some in the Greenwood Village apartments, and some at 1001 N. Olden Street. The N. Olden Street arrests took place after a witness observed a man gingerly placing letters enclosed in a ziploc bag into his car. The car had Florida license plates.

Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton.

There may be a chain of infection following the medical route – like there is following the mail route.

In DelRay Beach, Florida – a pharmacist (Gregg Chatterton at Huber Healthmart Drugs) claimed to have talked to Atta and another hijacker when they came into his pharmacy with ailments last August. Mostly, we heard about Atta, who had red hands. But the other hijacker, Marwan Al-Shehhi, had symptoms of inhalation anthrax (cough) that would have required him to visit a doctor in his area. The pharmacist said that a man resembling Al-Shehhi had returned to have a prescription filled, but his name was not found in their records – leading the investigators to think he had used an alias. The pharmacist said the red hands looked like a result from washing with bleach – that it did not look like cutaneous anthrax.

In Chester PA on 11/14/01 - teams of FBI agents complete with hazmat gear and tents, broke down door(s), swabbed and seized evidence at two homes and the city hall. One house was shared by City Health Commissioner Irshad Shaikh and his brother Masood. The other was the home of city accountant Asif Kazi. They are all from Pakistan. Kazi’s wife had a prescription for Cipro. Kazi had been seen dumping a cloudy liquid and handing a silver canister to someone.

Dr. Shaikh PhD. has been the Commissioner of Health since 1994. He received his undergrad and postgraduate diplomas in Community Medicine in Pakistan. He received his Masters and PhD in Public Health from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is fellow of the Public Health Leadership Institute (PHLI). PHLI is an executive leadership program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the University of California at Berkeley. Dr. Shaikh also holds a faculty appointment at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

Welcome to the Johns Hopkins University Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies"...Sponsored by The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation & The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation..."

Freepers wonder if this Could he be THE Asif Kazi, or is it a very common Pakistani name?

Tests are now being performed for Dr. Gerald Weisfogel who believes he may have had skin anthrax earlier than the mailings. There are three Gerald M. Weisfogel's listed in NJ - Franklin Park, Kendall Park and Metuchen. Dr. Gerald Weisfogel is chief of cardiology at the JFK Medical Center in New Jersey, which is in Edison, New Jersey. Edison is just across the river from New Brunswick. He indicated on GMA that he had Middle Eastern patients.

Kendall Park, Franklin Park, Edison, and Metuchen are all close to each other, going north on Rte. 1. So all the addresses are probably for the same guy: hospital in Edison, offices in Metuchen and either or Franklin Park or Kendall Park, and home in the fourth place

There are significant labs in Piscataway, across the river from New Brunswick, the main campus of RWJ. Robert Wood Johnson has two high-profile microbiology labs in Piscataway -- the CABM(Center forAdvanced Biotechnology and Medicine) and the Waksman Institute. The Waksman Institute is a "microbe farm," producing germ "products" for industry and research.

Metuchen is right up the road to the northeast. (And down the road about 12 miles along Route 1 is the Islamic Society and Franklin Park.)

The perp accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway – he drove in. He may have gone to New York to pick up or deliver the anthrax. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Kathy. The perp, may be working for RWJ University Hospital and had a business contact with Kathy’s hospital.

He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) – he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin Park.

There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting.

He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named "Greendale" in Abingdon, VA (a tri-state area.) He didn’t grab that name out of the air – neither brook nor dale would be common words to him.

In the alternative, he might have intentionally changed the name of a nearby school "Greenbrook" to "Greendale." The Greenbrook school only goes to the 4th grade.

Another possibility: Greendale and Franklin, WI are right next to each other. The NJ school is Greenbrook School, not Greendale. Could it be some Freudian slip? There are 15,000 Muslims in the area.

The block lettering may indicate that he is a tutor for elementary level students or has (or is undertaking) an engineering or architecture education.

The emphasis on the letters might have been intentional – pointing to ATTA.

If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular – going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc.

He may be dead or missing.

Medical anthrax trail - there should also be a star for New Brunswick!

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TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: amerithrax; anthrax; anthraxscarelist; fbi
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To: Alamo-Girl
Just another OUTSTANDING Job!

Thanks 'Girl!

41 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:56 PM PST by HoustonKevin
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To: oyez
Maybe they think "Richard Jewell" did it.....

NeverGore

42 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:57 PM PST by nevergore
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To: Alamo-Girl; gumbo; aristeides; bvw; tracer
Question to all:

Does anybody know anything about the medical disposal company that takes care of the Manhattan Eye, Ear & Throat Hospital waste,

the Walsh Integrated Environmental Systems Inc

List of the local hospitals that participate

Their web page doesn't work. But maybe there are FReepers who've heard of them

43 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:57 PM PST by Elenya
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To: Alamo-Girl
I ran across this and posted it last night. See how it fits into your theories. Its a bit different but not off the wall.

Anthrax: Profile of A Bio-Warrior and What the FBI May Have Missed

44 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Cavalry
Hey simpleton. You wouldn't be allowed to take out the lady's garbage.
45 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Alamo-Girl
YOU RULE!!! GREAT WORK
46 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:07 PM PST by alisasny
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To: Alamo-Girl
More related *here*
48 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by archy
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To: Alamo-Girl; Mitchell
Very impressive detective work Alamo-girl! If you haven't forwarded your profile of the Anthrax perp to the FBI you should consider it!

Mitchell, great catch! You too should forward your tip.

The logic and perseverence of the people on this forum never ceases to amaze me. Nice nice work, both of you!

49 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by terilyn
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To: Spirit Of Truth
I saw your tip on AMW last week! Of course they couldn't give details without tipping off the possible terrorist, but I knew who they were talking about. Way to keep pressing. That's the only way the FBI is ever going to solve this. Great job!
50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:16 PM PST by terilyn
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To: Alamo-Girl
The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda.

Duhhhh.... we all suspected that from day one.

They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here

Duhhhhh...... they may have been made in Russia – they may have been made in Iran

He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

Duhhhh..... how did he do that? How could he infect someone next door but no one at 1542 Kuser Road?

The perp may be from Pakistan

Duhhh.... or, he may not be from Pakistan.

He may be dead or missing.

Duhhhh.......... or, he may be alive and unknown.

51 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:16 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Only one point of difference. The Hopkins School of Hygiene and public health is across the street from the hospital. They do not have any labs for microbes there,,I went there for a graduate degree. However the place is full of socialists and supplies the Democrats with willing aiders of everything they want to do. They provided alot of the people who wrote health care legislation, etc. But they have no anthrax and neither does the hospital. Ft. Dietrich is a different place and does have germs, they are some distance from Hopkins. This guy may be on the faculty at the School of Hygiene but no way is there institutional support for terrorist activites. The former Dean of that school, Henderson, was the one who wiped out smallpox. It is a great school except for some departments that seem to attract all kinds of socialists, communists, etc. The Robert Wood Johnson foundation endows all kinds of activities including wings at Hopkins for peds. The former head of a department at Hopkins headed the RWJ foundation. I doubt they provide cover for terrorists either.
52 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:28 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

Good Morning America (7:00 AM ET) - ABC
November 12, 2001 Monday


HEADLINE: Dr. Jerry Weisfogel thinks he may have been the first person infected with anthrax, even before September 11th

ANCHORS: DIANE SAWYER; CHARLES GIBSON; ANTONIO MORA
REPORTERS: BRIAN ROSS
DIANE SAWYER, co-host:

Let's turn now to the last outsider we know of to see Osama bin Laden.

CHARLES GIBSON, co-host:  Well, actually, Diane, before we get to that we're going to look at the anthrax investigation. ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross here. There is word new trace amounts of anthrax have been found in five more Senate offices. Brian has the latest on the investigation. And there is a twist in this investigation now. A doctor in New Jersey who says he may have been the first to con--to contract anthrax disease, and he may have gotten it before September 11th.

BRIAN ROSS reporting:  That's right, Charlie. It's an intriguing story. A New Jersey doctor, a cardiologist by the name of Dr. Jerry Weisfogel, who wonders if he might have been the first person infected with anthrax. And what makes the story so potentially significant is that his symptoms appeared a week before the September 11th attacks. All the others were infected by letters that weren't postmarked until September 18th or October 8th. At the time, he had a sore with a black scab followed by what was diagnosed in a hospital as meningitis. But despite repeated efforts to tell the government he may have had a brush with the anthrax terrorists, Dr. Weisfogel says the government has all but ignored his case.

(VO) Dr. Weisfogel works in the town of Kendall Park, right next to Franklin Park, found on the return address of the Daschle letter. There's no Greendale School, but there is a Greenbrook School in Dr. Weisfogel's town, and it only goes to the fourth grade.

Dr. JERRY WEISFOGEL: It obviously made me think that--that there may have been some local connection between where my office is, between what I had , and whoever the perpetrators of the anthrax mailings is.

ROSS: (VO) But, to his amazement, Dr. Weisfogel says he had a hard time getting the Centers for Disease Control to get interested in his case. They told him his case appeared too early to be connected.

(OC) Did you say to them, 'Perhaps, I was the first case'?

Dr. WEISFOGEL: That's exactly what I said. I said, 'You have case one and case two, or cluster one and cluster two. How do you know there was not a cluster zero?'

ROSS: (VO) Dr. Weisfogel says he diagnosed his black scab as a spider bite and now wonders if this is the same common misdiagnosis in other anthrax cases. What's more, he wonders if the bioterrorists might have been in his office.

Dr. WEISFOGEL: Have I come across patients from countries who might be doing this? Yes.

ROSS: You've treated people like that?

Dr. WEISFOGEL: Yes.

ROSS: In this time frame?

Dr. WEISFOGEL: Yes. But there's no proof that any of them have had any connection.

ROSS: But what you're talking about is a possible lead.

Dr. WEISFOGEL: It's a possible lead.

ROSS: And this is a case with almost no other leads, according to the attorney general and the head of the FBI. Yet, Dr. Weisfogel wonders why no one is interested in his case. Shortly after the Centers for Disease Control learned that he had talked with GOOD MORNING AMERICA, they then told him they had interest in the case and would now test his blood for antibodies, but Charlie, he still has not been interviewed by the FBI about any of the information which he thinks could be very relevant.

GIBSON: And we don't know the results of those tests yet as to...

ROSS: They told him it could be weeks. There's no rush on this at all. It's surprising.

GIBSON: So the intriguing possibility that he may have actually encountered the person who spread the anthrax.

ROSS: That's what he's wondering. He doesn't know. He'd like to be tested to find out. He's geographically in the area that could be important.

GIBSON: Sure. All right, Brian Ross, thanks very much.


53 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:36 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: nevergore
er uh..that caused wake turbelence....not weapon grade...ummmm...the engine just fell off.....

ROLFOL!

54 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:37 PM PST by taxbreak
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To: Fred25
Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh.......... Duhhhh..........

Hooked on phonics. I hear it does wonders for stuff like this.

55 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:37 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Alamo-Girl
Need to send your analysis to the FBI. They are out chasing phantoms, while you're hot on the trail of the real terrorists.
57 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:40 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Alamo-Girl
bump
58 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:40 PM PST by wooly_mammoth
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Orlin Grabbe has your FR thread on his site, so yes, it has definitely been seen by the people who should see it.
59 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:49 PM PST by wooly_mammoth
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To: archy
Thanks for the link. North Korea is possible.
60 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:50 PM PST by wooly_mammoth
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