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Bin Laden's nuclear secrets found
The Times | 11/15/01 | Anthony Loyd

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:18 PM PST by The Drowning Witch

Bin Laden's nuclear secrets found.

FROM ANTHONY LOYD IN KABUL

Times reporter finds blueprint for 'Nagasaki bomb'

Singed files left by fleeing terrorists

OSAMA BIN LADEN’S al-Qaeda network held detailed plans for nuclear devices and other terrorist bombs in one of its Kabul headquarters.

The Times discovered the partly burnt documents in a hastily abandoned safe house in the Karta Parwan quarter of the city. Written in Arabic, German, Urdu and English, the notes give detailed designs for missiles, bombs and nuclear weapons. There are descriptions of how the detonation of TNT compresses plutonium into a critical mass, sparking a chain reaction, and ultimately a thermonuclear reaction.

Both President Bush and British ministers are convinced that bin Laden has access to nuclear material and Mr Bush said earlier this month that al-Qaeda was “seeking chemical, biological and nuclear weapons”.

The discovery of the detailed bomb-making instructions, along with studies into chemical and nuclear devices, confirms the West’s worst fears and raises the spectre of plans for an attack that would far exceed the September 11 atrocities in scale and gravity.

Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. However, they emphasised that it was extremely difficult to build a viable warhead.

While the terrorists may not yet have the capability to build such weapons, their hopes of doing so are clear. One set of notes, written on headed notepaper from the Hotel Grand in Peshawar and dated April 26, 1998, says: “Naturally the explosive liquid has a very high mechanical energy which is translated into destructive force. But it can be tamed, controlled and can be used as a useful propulsive fuel if certain methods are applied to it. A supersonic moving missile has a shock wave. That shock wave can be used to contain an external combustion behind the missile . . .”

The document was one of many found in two of four al-Qaeda houses which had been used by Arabs and Pakistanis and even reportedly by bin Laden himself. The houses — two in the Karta Parwan district and the others further to the east — were abandoned on Monday as Taleban units and their allies fled the city.

Attempts had been made to burn the evidence, but many documents still remained. They included studies into the development of a kinetic energy supergun capable of firing chemical or nuclear warheads, external propulsion missiles, preliminary research on the creation of a thermonuclear device, as well as a multitude of instructions for making smaller bombs.

There were also studies into Western special forces’ hostage rescue techniques, phone numbers for industrial chemical and synthetic producers, flight manuals, aerodynamic research, and advanced physics and chemistry manuals.

The houses were identified by local people. Looters had concentrated on more appetising objects, ignoring foreign language documents that were of no use to them.

Bin Laden sees it as his “religious duty” to obtain a nuclear bomb. In an interview with a Pakistani journalist last week, he threatened: “If America used chemical or nuclear weapons against us then we may retort with chemical and nuclear weapons as deterrent.”

Intelligence agencies already have indirect evidence from defectors, middlemen and scientists of bin Laden’s obsession with obtaining or producing a nuclear device.

Al-Qaeda agents are known to have spent more than £1 million trying to obtain enough fissile material to make a “dirty bomb” that, if detonated with TNT in a populous area, could kill thousands and contaminate it for decades.

Intelligence sources told The Times last month that bin Laden and al-Qaeda had acquired nuclear materials illegally from Pakistan. And at least ten Pakistani nuclear scientists have been contacted by agents for the Taleban and al-Qaeda in the past two years, according to reports.

Fears that bin Laden has components for a nuclear weapon is believed to lie behind the warnings from President Bush and Tony Blair that he would commit worse atrocities than the suicide assaults in America if he could.The Prime Minister’s spokesman said: “Bin Laden would have killed 600,000 people on September 11 if he could have done. This underlines again why he has to be stopped. ”


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1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:18 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
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2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:19 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: The Drowning Witch
Judging by the way things are going I wonder if they also found his plans for really really big water balloons.....
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:19 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: The Drowning Witch
Yep.

Saddam is now MUCH MORE dangerous;

he HAS the Nukes and other WMDs.

4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:19 PM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: KLT; Hillary's Lovely Legs; OldFriend; TLBSHOW; All
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5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:20 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: The Drowning Witch
descriptions of how the detonation of TNT compresses plutonium into a critical mass, sparking a chain reaction, and ultimately a thermonuclear reaction.

This stuff has been in the public domain since I was a teenager (40 years ago).

You take two big stainless steel bowls, pack the plutonium inside and weld the bowls topgether in the form of a sphere. Then smoosh a whole lot of explosives around the sphere's surface...read this in high school.

That the newsies are going ga-ga over this insignificant tidbit of useless knowledge shows how ignorant they are.

6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:29 PM PST by Rudder
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To: The Drowning Witch
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7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:29 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
I'll bet you this was planted.
8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:40 PM PST by majic12
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To: Rudder
You take two big stainless steel bowls, pack the plutonium inside and weld the bowls topgether in the form of a sphere. Then smoosh a whole lot of explosives around the sphere's surface...read this in high school.

That the newsies are going ga-ga over this insignificant tidbit of useless knowledge shows how ignorant they are.

It's not all that simple. The explosive has to be shaped correctly and detonated from all directions at exactly the same instant. The implosion has to be shaped and timed just right or it won't become critical - it will just spread a lot of fissionable material around.

Special detonators are needed and electrical lead length is an important detail. Ever heard of a Kryton trigger? Bet that wasn't in your high school books.

9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:40 PM PST by mfulstone
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To: mfulstone
No, of course it wasn't, and I doubt there was sufficient detail in what was found at Bin Laden's lair. My point is that it's not hard to get the plans for a thermonuclear device. The devil is in the details.
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:42 PM PST by Rudder
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To: majic12
It sure smells like a plant to me.

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11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:42 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: The Drowning Witch
This was probably just Osama's jerk-off material. Were the plans found by the loo, by any chance?
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:43 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: mfulstone
And picking up that plutonium is simply a matter of dashing down to Wal-Mart and tossing it into the shopping cart along with a bag of mini 3 Musketeers, some diet Pepsi, a Clean Shower refill, and a 12 pack of Great Northern toilet paper...right????
13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:47 PM PST by perez24
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To: The Drowning Witch
Did he also happen to find Col. Saunders secret recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken?

VRN

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:56 PM PST by Voronin
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To: Voronin
Did he also happen to find Col. Saunders secret recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken?

How did you know that? You must have great counter intelligence connections...

Also there was the secret of McDonald's hamburger recipe, here it is:


15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by KLT
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To: KLT
KLT (or should that be BLT?), you are an agent for McDonalds!

Regs

VRN

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:38 PM PST by Voronin
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To: Voronin
KLT (or should that be BLT?), you are an agent for McDonalds!

Can you tell by my little hat? ROTFLOL!

17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:48 PM PST by KLT
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To: mfulstone
no but a lithum one will work just as well and it is in most of the internet plans.

From what I have read, I do agree with you the devil is in the details. However, some moron might get one to sputter and that would be really dirty.

By the way if you talk to people that have spent any time in the middle east it is kind of an urban legend over there that Arabs have trouble working machinery.

NOT RACIST JUST PASSING ON INFO!

18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:49 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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