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'Muslim extremists' ignore Vatican, build mosque
AP/Jerusalem Post ^ | 11/14/01 | Laurie Copans

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:51 PM PST by veronica

JERUSALEM - Working under cover of darkness, Muslims in Jesus' boyhood town of Nazareth have begun constructing a mosque alongside the Basilica of the Annunciation, despite protests by the Vatican and Israeli authorities.

The Vatican, in a statement issued in Rome, called on the Israeli government to stop "Muslim extremists" from building the mosque next to the church marking the site where Christians believe the angel Gabriel told Mary she would give birth to Jesus.

"Building the mosque here will in effect put this holy place in a state of permanent siege and make its gate a gathering place for the most hostile elements," the statement said, according to the Vatican news service Fides.

Israeli authorities charged today that the work constituted a provocation and threatened to stop the construction by force, even as the Muslim holy month of Ramadan begins. Local Christians warned the work could re-ignite the interreligious violence that erupted at the site last year.

Construction on the mosque began Monday, without the necessary permits, but the Israeli Lands Authority ordered it halted. The Wakf, or Islamic Trust, stopped the work today but said it will start again if it does not get the necessary permits within a week.

Witnesses said crews were working at the site Monday and Tuesday nights in an apparent attempt to keep the construction secret.

A lawyer for the Muslims, Dan Shafrir, said the construction had been going on day and night. The Israeli Lands Authority promised to help the Islamic Trust obtain the permits for the Muslim-owned land if the construction was stopped, Shafrir said.

"We're not hiding anything from anyone," Shafrir said. "Whether or not we get the permits, we will continue construction in a week."

The construction was halted only temporarily, and steel beams arrived at the site today, said Ahmed Saleh Hamudeh, the head of the Islamic Trust in Nazareth.

Christians are a minority in Nazareth, and tensions over the mosque have been running high between the Christian community and the Muslim majority in the city of 70,000. Nazareth is the largest Arab city in Israel.

Under pressure from Christian leaders, including the Vatican, the previous Israeli government worked out a compromise in 1999 to defuse a tense situation in which Muslims were praying in a large tent a few meters from the church, as a planned millennium visit by Pope John Paul II neared. The Vatican had hinted the issue could force the cancellation of the pope's visit, which took place as scheduled in March 2000.

According to the agreement, the tent was removed, and a mosque would be built on one third of the 2,000-square-meter plot, but only after the millennium year.

Church leaders in the Holy Land complain that Israel made excessive concessions to the Muslims, while ignoring promises made to Christian leaders, including the pope.

Despite the pledges of the previous government, Israeli officials are indicating that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon will not allow construction of the mosque.

"A decision on the matter will be made by the government" due to the sensitivity of the issue, Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nachshon said. "We are absolutely against the work going on at the moment."

Israel believes that starting construction days before the start of Ramadan is a cynical use of the holiday by the Muslims, with the hope authorities will not act to stop the work, a government official said on condition of anonymity.

The authorities will forcibly halt the work if necessary, the official said.

Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, himself a Muslim, sided with the Christians in the dispute, saying in December 1999 that the Muslims should not build the mosque so close to the church.

The Muslims say a Crusader-era sage is buried at the site, and they hoped to build a large mosque there. Church leaders wanted the plot for a plaza to accommodate millennium pilgrims.


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To: veronica
not that it makes any difference to the political scene but Jesus was not born in Nazereth. Nazereth didn't exist until about the time or after of the first Jewish Revolt. Jesus was a nazorean which is not associated with a town that did not exist. dai
21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:16 PM PST by daitex
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To: thefactor
It's not like the Christians ever tried to convert the entire world to their religion

want to site some examples please? I don't know of any Christian holding a knife to your neck saying convert or die, as some moslem do.

22 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:26 PM PST by bird4four4
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To: thefactor
Muslims make up a vast majority of the population, give 'em a darn mosque.

Why don't you invite them to construct a mosque on the site of the WTC rubble? /sarcasm!

Good grief, the spot they have chosen is considered Holy Ground by two major religions. I don't care how Muslims are in this world, they have no right encroaching on other people's Holy sites. Why don't you invite the Scientologists to construct a meeting hall there?

23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:26 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: veronica
OK. As long as we can build a church next to Mecca.
24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:27 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: hsszionist
I don't know if they "profaned" the Temple Mount. However they did build the Dome of the Rock on a vacant lot about 1300 years ago.
25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:27 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Aquinasfan
good one~:)
26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:28 PM PST by HappyInfidel
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To: Askel5
"My God My God why hast thou forsaken me" Psalm (22).

Last Palm Sunday, hearing these words in a Trinitarian sense for the first time, I was filled with a holy dread that I still can't describe. Especially when I think of St. Andrei Rublev's icon of the Holy Trinity (which Fr. Klores mentioned in last Sunday's sermon), the classic depiction of the Trinity's perfect order, unity, and accord, to imagine the Son cut off and forsaken from the order of that perfect symmetry -- to imagine the Trinity's very existence, and with it all-that-Is, perched on the edge of chaos -- the suffering and death of the Son transcend mere grief, and become a fearful thing.

The primal war between God and the rebel angels who stands for confusion and eternal death thus emerges as a foreshadowing and prophecy of this supreme and everlasting triumph over death.

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by Romulus
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To: usual suspect
"...I can't help thinking about what the Taliban did to the Hindu Buddhist shrines in Afghanistan..."

I'm not a Buddhist. And -to be honest- I don't believe that Buddhists are on the 'right track', religion-wise, so I'm not here to carry their water.

But their shrines were there first, LONG before the tali-whackos ever dragged their gutter-cult 'religion' into that area. Those village-idiot moslems had no reason (other than their ingrained desire to vandalize everything around them) to destroy them like that.

Islamazombies are like wild dogs that ravage every creature within their reach, killing more than they can possibly eat and pissing on what's left over.

28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: veronica
Maybe the Vatican would like to buy a Daisy Cutter and clear the Mosque in a flash.
29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: veronica
Be a great place for a smart bomb to land.
30 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:29 PM PST by Warren
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To: daitex
Of course, Jesus was not born in Nazareth. He was born in Bethlehem. Joseph and Mary lived in "a city of Galilee, named Nazareth" (Luke 1:26) and that is where Jesus grew up.
31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:30 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: veronica
"ignore Vatican, build mosque"

What are they afraid of, going cut into the trinket sales?

32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:31 PM PST by ibme
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To: ibme
LOLOL. Probably.
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:33 PM PST by Patria One
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To: bird4four4
Happened thousands of times during the inquisition. Except far worse than a knife to the neck. The Roman church invented all kinds of elaborate torture techniques justified by the rationale that saving the soul was worth any amount of pain that they might inflict upon the unbeliever's body. I'm a Christian, but I do not ignore our more sordid side. During these times, there were real Christians hiding in caves laborously hand copying the gospels, then hiding them under their frocks, walking into the cities, and dropping them where they could be found by potential prospects that were thought to be receptive to the true Gospel of peace in Jesus Christ. The Inquisitors had made it punishable by death to possess a Bible or any portion thereof, lest the people find out that Christ taught of freedom, not bondage. Interestly enough, the Renaissance and the Age of Reason and personal freedom came about only when the printing press made possible such a wide dissemination of the Christian Bible that the Roman Church could no longer impose the death penalty for its' possession.
34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:33 PM PST by stryker
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To: veronica
Where is Vlad Tepes or Richard Coeur D'Lione when you REALLY need them?
35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:33 PM PST by ZULU
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To: veronica
This is how they operate. In a few hundered yrs, this will become their 3rd holiest shrine in the world. Given a chance they will destroy the church and claim it never existed.
36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:34 PM PST by Cool Guy
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To: stryker
The Inquisitors had made it punishable by death to possess a Bible or any portion thereof, lest the people find out that Christ taught of freedom, not bondage. Interestly enough, the Renaissance and the Age of Reason and personal freedom came about only when the printing press made possible such a wide dissemination of the Christian Bible that the Roman Church could no longer impose the death penalty for its' possession.

Why hello, Jack Chick. Would you mind listing some actual history instead of propaganda?

37 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:35 PM PST by jrherreid
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To: bird4four4
"It's not like the Christians ever tried to convert to entire world to their religion..."

I guess you right.

Now let's all go back to 22 A.D. when one of the Apostles threatened to slap some non-Christian with a reed of palms if he wouldn't "convert." Those Apostles -- what Christian extremists they were...

38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:35 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: veronica
The Vatican, in a statement issued in Rome, called on the Israeli government to stop "Muslim extremists"

Any small mention that Israel should maybe also stop Muslim extremists from killing Jews- without the Vatican condemning "excessive" Israeli actions.

39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:36 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Patria One
And that Abomination Of Desolation will one day be destroyed.
40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:09:36 PM PST by Emmanual_Goldstein16
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