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To: Wm Bach; 11B3; harpseal; Squantos; PatrioticAmerican; pocat; blam; nunya bidness; wardaddy...
They have already taken an honorable word from the Bill of Rights and made it a synonym for terrorist: militia.

Now "defenders of the constitution" are suspects for domestic terrorism?

If this pamphlet is not a joke, we are in deep trouble, because millions of us who swore an oath to "defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC" will not disregard that oath.

If there is not a better prescription for the causing of a civil war I can't think of it. LEOs and FLEOs are asked both to take an oath to defend the constitution, and regard defenders of the constittion as potential terrorists.

The seeds of a real conflict are seen in this pamphlet, because today under the so-called "Patriot Act of 2001" (anti terrorism law just passed 99-1) suspects in terrorism cases fall into a category which takes away most of their civil rights and due process protections.

136 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:44 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I most heartily agree with all your comments. As I understand the FBI and BATF there are administrators and there are the troops in the field. The administrators are the ones who approve pamphlets and put out this trash. Many of these administrative types are the same ones who have blamed the anthrax on the "Right Wing." It is my opinion these clinonista administrators within the DOJ view the people of the USA who have read and value their Constitution as their biggest enemy and would much rather see all the powers of the Federal Government focused on them rather than going after some misunderstood Muslims.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

149 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:53 PM PST by harpseal
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To: Travis McGee
I am very interested in knowing if this is a localized phenomenae (ie. a Clinton era hold-over) or if it represents a test case for a general attitude/policy.

While many of the criteria are understandable, clearly, the part about using particularly these criteria to "assist uniformed officers in identifying potentital domestic terrorists" is extremely conerning:

If this is an attempt to establish a general policy regarding profiling people using particularly these criteria and then applying the "Patriot Act" and other Anti-Terrorism provision against them ... it is sure to lead to unrest and out and out fighting IMHO.

If it is an isolated incident, they need to remove the people responsible and diavow this particular tract and replace it with one that does not contain these references at all IMHO.

164 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:04 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Travis McGee
Lone individuals are terrorist's ? Right wing are extreamist ,....yet left wing are terrorist ? Well ya have to like that part :o)

They want to stick to this they'll have to disband congress......Ooooop's maybe I let the cat outta the bag early....

Stay Safe !

203 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:55 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Travis McGee
As I always say, "Arm up! They Are!", but, now, it is, "Arm up! They HAVE!"
254 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:33 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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