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Former NTSB Official Doubts Accident Caused Flt. 587 Crash
www.newsmax.com | 11/12/01 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/12/2001 7:40:57 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins

Monday Nov. 12, 2001; 11:34 p.m. EST

Former NTSB Official Doubts Accident Caused Flt. 587 Crash

Aviation expert and former National Transportation & Safety Board official Vernon Grose said late Monday that he's increasingly skeptical that the crash of American Airlines Flight 587 was purely accidental.

"I am backing away from the ready idea that this is simply an accident," Grose told Fox News Channel's John Scott.

The veteran air crash prober said that he questions the sequence in which the plane broke up over Jamaica Bay before slamming into a residential area in Rockaway, Queens.

"Photographs you've already shown tonigt (indicate) the vertical stabilizer of the aircraft with the American Airlines insignia right on it (fell into) Jamaica Bay long before the engine falls off in Queens," he told Scott.

Grose said that if the vertical stabilizer detached from Flt. 587 over Jamaica Bay, which the plane traversed before plummeting to the ground in Rockaway, it suggested that catastrophic engine failure alone may not have caused the crash.

"No, I don't think that's the situation at all," he told FNC.

"The engine that came free, which apparently was the number 1 left engine, and crashed on land - that was well after the vertical stabilizer was detached from the aircraft and that tells me that somehow..... that the airplane was progressively disintegrating, not just losing an engine and then diving into the ground."

"Earlier today I thought it was simply the loss of an engine that caused this," Grose told FNC. "But I'm not convinced now.... I am becoming more skeptical."


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To: GEC
My how quickly people seem to have forgotten this event!!
201 posted on 02/27/2002 9:27:01 AM PST by timestax
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To: concerned about politics
Concerning TWA800: Myriad credible witnesses saw TWO missle tracks end at the aircraft, only seconds apart! Whatever the story, it has been covered up totally. Just like the Vince Foster MURDER and who knows what else!

Clearly, there are unanswered questions regarding Flt 587.....

202 posted on 02/27/2002 9:27:24 AM PST by mil-vet
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To: concerned about politics
We won't let people forget this event!!
203 posted on 02/27/2002 9:27:35 AM PST by timestax
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To: maxamillion
bttt
204 posted on 02/27/2002 9:31:30 AM PST by timestax
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To: Hagrid
bttt
205 posted on 02/27/2002 11:33:33 AM PST by timestax
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To: ChicagoRepublican
Now if this wasn't from newsmax.com I would believe it.

So what do you use as your source of information?

206 posted on 02/27/2002 3:24:30 PM PST by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser
The newswires such as Associated Press and Reuters are good for getting hard facts when they happen. The bias by headline and word choice they use peeves me though.

Other than that I read Times of India, Jerusalem Post, Ha'aretz Daily, St. Petersburg Times, Gazeta Wyborcza even though they have the standard European liberal biases, Die Welt, EurasiaNet and assorted other ones based on my language comprehension.

I avoid Washington Times, Newsmax, Worldnetdaily, Debka, the Sun and the London Times.

207 posted on 02/27/2002 4:10:38 PM PST by ChicagoRepublican
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To: timestax
Flight 587 was brought down by a shoe-bomber sitting next to the right wing, BUMP.
208 posted on 02/27/2002 4:18:19 PM PST by ez
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To: ChicagoRepublican
Associated Press, Reuters, Times of India, Jerusalem Post, Ha'aretz Daily, St. Petersburg Times, Gazeta Wyborcza even though they have the standard European liberal biases, Die Welt, EurasiaNet and assorted other ones, Washington Times, Newsmax, Worldnetdaily, Debka, the Sun and the London Times

And of all these sources, which ones reported the facts surrounding the death of Ron Brown (like the opinions of the pathologists and what the photos and x-rays show)? Which reported the facts surrounding Filegate (like the testimony of Linda Tripp)? Which reported the Riady non-refund (i.e., his statement in court last year regarding the DNC/Clinton campaign organizations not returning the illegal money he gave them)? I will BET YOU that Newsmax was one of the few.

209 posted on 02/27/2002 8:36:13 PM PST by BeAChooser
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To: ez
bump
210 posted on 03/02/2002 9:31:17 PM PST by timestax
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To: BeAChooser
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211 posted on 03/02/2002 9:34:06 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax
bump for justice
212 posted on 03/03/2002 4:07:37 PM PST by timestax
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To: mcollins
bttt
213 posted on 03/10/2002 12:23:07 PM PST by timestax
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
bump
214 posted on 03/15/2002 1:56:12 PM PST by timestax
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To: maxamillion
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215 posted on 03/16/2002 1:24:10 PM PST by timestax
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To: mil-vet
FBI disinformation expert, James Kallstrom morphed the 30-Knot boat leaving the scene of incident into a helicopter.
216 posted on 03/16/2002 1:28:00 PM PST by timestax
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To: ChicagoRepublican
Now if this wasn't from newsmax.com

Isnt curious how NewsMax and WorldNetPablum have fallen so rapidly from favor? I agree with you. If its a WND or NMx story I typically skip right over it...Now

217 posted on 03/16/2002 1:28:09 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: Stevieboy
bump for justice
218 posted on 03/17/2002 9:25:26 AM PST by timestax
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To: timestax
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219 posted on 01/15/2003 11:02:25 PM PST by timestax
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