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Anthrax Letter Writer Profile
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Posted on 11/09/2001 1:33:50 PM PST by Fearless Flyers

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To: Fearless Flyers
You just implicated half of South Carolina, and possibly all of Tenn.
221 posted on 11/10/2001 12:35:07 AM PST by snodog
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To: FITZ
Maybe they did it as a trick, sometimes a criminal actually doesn't want someone else to get "the credit" for doing what he did. Chances are the guy behind this thinks he's brilliant (a brilliant Arab) and will put out a few hints to make sure the wrong people aren't given the credit.

Oooh, I like that idea. In fact, it's better than one I had last night. I was thinking maybe the FBI already knew who it was and was still in the evidence-gathering mode, hoping that more evidence would come from the public who recognized him after seeing this.

223 posted on 11/10/2001 5:37:02 AM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Fearless Flyers
The FBI profilers are makinng their assessment based on a statistic of one--the Unabomber.

If they nab this guy, chances are he will be distinctively different than the Unabomber. Then they will statistics of two. It will absolutely blow their minds.

224 posted on 11/10/2001 6:12:39 AM PST by yikes
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To: spunkets
I think the guy hates the Enquirer group

ROUND UP THE USUAL SUSPECTS

No, that's not Calista Flockhart!


225 posted on 11/10/2001 6:41:42 AM PST by hispanarepublicana
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To: The Bolt
B U M P for this one. I have thought this from the lack of "repeat" attacks.

Problem, the Feds DON'T KNOW they have this person in custody. They may suspect, they may have this person held on some visa violation or traffic warrants or some other BS, but they DONT KNOW! Communications between Law enforcement/courts/correctional facilities are, for the most part, lousy.

Part of the reason is informational privacy. My wife works for the court system, and they can only get info on persons who are in the exact particular court she works for. All other info, while in a database, is blocked. There have been many instances where constables/police/sheriffs were searching for an individual who had warrants, and the person turns up, eventually, already incarcerated. Not uncommon.

I would, however like to know two things. One, where is the mutilated mail which infected the DC postal worker who died after that eerie 911 call. None of the envelopes shown look mutilated, yet this person says there was a mutilated envelope caught in a sorting machine. Given the outcome, I consider the 911 phonecall a "dying declaration", and have no reason to suspect the details about the infection source. To whom was it addressed? Where is it now? I would very much like to see THAT particular envelope. Second, I believe the Feebs are making too much of the writing alone as a profiling tool. The people who planned this act of war, both this, and 9/11 are not stupid. They had IMHO, these letters ready to go prior to 9/11. Deliberate misleading lettering would not be lost on them. Why all of a sudden this "standard" profile which looks suspiciously like a template (male, loner, some education, etc etc.) The FBI can't keep their own stories straight which they are releasing from week to week. In the same line of reasoning, why did they issue that "please help us" statement, then this generic profile? Doesn't make sense to me.

Comments, as always, are appreciated and welcomed.

Keep the Faith for Freedom

MAY GOD BLESS AND PROTECT THIS HONORABLE REPUBLIC

Greg

226 posted on 11/10/2001 8:17:03 AM PST by gwmoore
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To: Nita Nupress; gumbo; nocomad; browardchad; amom; Yellow Rose of Texas; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
My addition to the FBI profile for the discussion:

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda.

He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems – of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures.

He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

Likewise, he accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway – he drove in. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Nancy.

He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) – he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin park.

There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting.

He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named “Greendale.” He didn’t grab that name out of the air – neither brook nor dale would be common words to him.

If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular – going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc.

He may be dead or missing.


227 posted on 11/10/2001 8:54:40 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks much, Alamo-Girl. As usual, a stellar job. MUCH better than the "generic profile template 1" which was issued by the FBI ;-) BTW, do you have any theories on the "mutilated letter". This is bothering me as a HUGE loose end. We have 2 postal workers dead from Anthrax. One calls 911, basically at death's door, and makes a recorded statement about events at the postal facility. This, to me is a "dying declaration" and therefore, is stipulated as truth. Where is that letter? To whom was it addressed? Is there any message or handwriting which can be compared. Incidentally, this "mutilated letter", according to the call had a large amount of material. This being so, we are looking at mass cross-contamination of everything processed on that same machine. I don't know why I feel that this is somehow the "Rosetta Stone" of this whole incident, but I do. Find that letter, and we will get some answers.

Keep the Faith for Freedom

MAY GOD BLESS AND PROTECT THIS HONORABLE REPUBLIC

Greg

228 posted on 11/10/2001 9:09:13 AM PST by gwmoore
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To: nocomad
It would be easy to make that stuff if a manual existed. I don't think one does. It requires collection of info from, professional journals and texts from many disciplines. The concepts and techniques are familiar in a number of industries, but making this slime requires that someone develope the manual on their own. Would your friend have been able to conceptualize and construct his operation if there were no how to manuals. That manual took many man hours and a lot of knowledge and understanding to make.

The equipment they list is a likely minimum that someone knowing the perp would notice. Mentioning the other equipment would only confuse the folks they're looking for tips from. The fellows that work with the guy are likely to recognize the equipment on their own.

NJ is loaded with chemical type operations. The FBI has to work through all the fog to be able find a needle in a haystack. They are definitely going to need the publics help to lead them to the perp quickly. I think they ought to publish some of the micrographs and surface analysis results they have. Doing that, and labeling this guy as an introverted authoritarian, would greatly enhance the likelihood of recognition by the perps peers.

229 posted on 11/10/2001 9:14:41 AM PST by spunkets
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks. Excellent. I have a few hours. :-)
230 posted on 11/10/2001 9:19:05 AM PST by amom
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To: hispanarepublicana
"I think the guy hates the Enquirer group"

Actually I don't have a clue what he thinks about it. That was just an eruption from my brain about what I think of it. LOL! The only important part is that he recognizes it's readership.

231 posted on 11/10/2001 9:32:48 AM PST by spunkets
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To: gwmoore
Thank you so very much for the kudos!!!

I strongly suspect that if there were more anthrax in the mutilated letter, the cross contamination would have been so large that we would be seeing a wave of new infections.

On the other hand, it may have been a much lesser grade of anthrax and thus did not spread as easily or effectively.

232 posted on 11/10/2001 9:42:00 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: amom
Thank you so very much, amom!!! I was hoping you'd have a chance to do some of your outstanding research on the profile. I wish I could do more today, but my company is due any minute now. sigh...
233 posted on 11/10/2001 9:44:25 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: gwmoore
I have read a lot about how we should not have been in the Gulf War or that we didn't finish the job. Subsequently, we knew how Clinton did nothing about the WTC bombing in '93, and other terrorist attacks. He pulled out of the Iraq inspections. Hearing about how entrenched the jihad had become here, sufficiently enough to know how easy the attack would be on us, I agree that we cannot overlook that the anthrax poisonings come from this source. Is the government being forthright? I do not think so.

At this point, I do not belive this is Vietnam II. In my studies, I do understand how our men were left high and dry by the government. Most of the military personnel are saying that we will not commit ground troops to the extent we did in Vietnam. In this 9-11 attack, I thought we could not declare war since the insurance companies would then not have to pay.

President Bush's administration has an undaunting job, and at least the American people are behind him, despite the mainstream media's attempt to undermine him every step of the way. I pray you are wrong.

234 posted on 11/10/2001 9:45:02 AM PST by Angelique
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To: Owen
...Perhaps because it occurred only a mile or so from where the hijackers lived? ...There is empire protecting going on here.

Agreed. But that won't (will not) stop them from finding a Jewel in the haystack.

By the way, if Antrax is the choice of weapon of a male, what is the female choice of weapon?

235 posted on 11/10/2001 10:18:51 AM PST by Jack Barbara
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To: Alamo-Girl
Good work AG! FYI, Saddam Hussein purchased his first Anthrax through a mail order catalogue of a US company.
236 posted on 11/10/2001 10:18:54 AM PST by Angelique
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To: FITZ
Sometimes a criminal actually doesn't want someone else to get "the credit" for doing what he did. Chances are the guy behind this thinks he's brilliant (a brilliant Arab) and will put out a few hints to make sure the wrong people aren't given the credit.

Good thinking. Maybe he doesn't want to be thought of as an American loner either, since he pictures himself as part of a host of jihadists.

237 posted on 11/10/2001 11:05:07 AM PST by syriacus
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To: Alamo-Girl
He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart.

Maybe he fixes their computers or does their newsletter.

238 posted on 11/10/2001 11:09:36 AM PST by syriacus
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To: gwmoore
They had IMHO, these letters ready to go prior to 9/11. Deliberate misleading lettering would not be lost on them. Why all of a sudden this "standard" profile which looks suspiciously like a template (male, loner, some education, etc etc.)

I agree. I even think Atta may have had the anthrax letters ready for someone else to mail for him. Maybe he didn't actually brew the anthrax himself. Maybe some foreign student resident at one of the medical centers between Maine and NJ brewed it. Atta supposedly put a lot of miles on his rented car before 9/11.

We are being told the mailer probably had the anthrax for some time and was waiting for something like 9/11 to occur. I can't see someone waiting like that unless they KNEW 9/11 was going to happen.

If I were an angry, non-Muslim, non-Arabic, American, loner male who had a store of anthrax I wouldn't wait for planes to be flown into a building before I mailed it.

239 posted on 11/10/2001 11:25:14 AM PST by syriacus
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To: 88keys
Did I read, hear, or only imagine a report of the "profile" citing "English as a second language"?! I could swear I heard that, but I can't source it...so frustrating, as I'm either on to something I can't prove, or I'm just (temporarily) losing it!!

You aren't losing it.

Washington Post Oct 26 FBI and CIA Suspect Domestic Extremists
One official said the only significant clue raising the possibility of foreign terrorist involvement is the conclusion of FBI behavioral scientists, who believe that whoever wrote the three letters delivered to Daschle, NBC News and the New York Post did not learn English as a first language.

240 posted on 11/10/2001 11:58:32 AM PST by syriacus
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