Peggy Noonan: The Phony War

Opinion Journal ^ | 11/09/2001 | Peggy Noonan

[Pokey78]

Like Britain in 1939, we're at war but not yet in it.

That was an interesting speech President Bush gave last night in Georgia. Its subject was homeland security, and in terms of content, style and tone it seemed to be, essentially, nothing new. And yet by the end and after reading it, I thought: He's telling us a great deal here.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Well, there those tears come again. Peggy Noonan - superb. President Bush - splendid. Did you all see how the crowd reacted to his speech? For NBC and CBS to not show this speech - is beyond corrupt. It is traitorous. Do they think we are in a game? Do they think they will now not be targeted because they are doing the Talieban's bidding by not allowing our President to be heard on their feifdoms? Don't they have a public trust? Can't we file a complaint with the FCC for failure to fulfill their duty to the public trust?

But back to the brilliant Peggy Noonan.

(Thank you, Dear God, that she is on America's side!)

What a joy to read her writing. Please, Pokey78, add me to your Peggy Noonan ping list. And, please, Peggy Noonan = keep it coming!

[St.Chuck]

Noonan is a propagandist; one must take her with a grain of salt.

[M Kehoe]

Thanks for the flag.

5.56mm

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Political info. comes to me from everywhere in the form of e-mails. I thought this was very interesting as it came to me from a fine young man in the Reform Party who got this from a Republican site which had picked it up from a "Messengers of Christ Ministries" site. No matter which party one is affiliated with (Democrat, Republican, Reform, Constitution, etc.); however, this is good to keep on hand in light of 9-11 and what we're REALLY fighting.

I sent this to a number of people and, at the very end of this comparison, is a response from a Christian/patriotic brother which I thought was important to pass along

From: The Republican
Subject: Christ vs Mohammed

FWD via Messengers of Christ Ministries (Andrew Neckar):

A COMPARISON BETWEEN MOHAMMED AND JESUS CHRIST

Mohammed was the prophet of war;
Christ is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6-7).

Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith;
Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Timothy 4:7).

Mohammed promoted persecution against the "infidels";
Christ forgave and converted the chief persecutor (1Timothy 1:13-15).

Mohammed was the taker of life;
Christ was the giver of life (John 10:27-28).

Mohammed and his fellow warriors murdered thousands;
Christ murdered none but saved many (compare John 12:48).

Mohammed's method was COMPULSION;
Christ's aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19).

Mohammed practiced FORCE;
Christ preached FAITH (John 6:29,35).

Mohammed was a WARRIOR;
Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

Mohammed conquered his enemies with the sword;
Christ conquered his enemies with another kind of sword, the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God (Hebrews 4:12; Acts 2:37).

Mohammed said to the masses, "Convert or die!";
Christ said, "Believe and live!" (John 6:47; 11:25-26).

Mohammed was swift to shed blood (Romans 3:15-17);
Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Ephesians 1:7).

Mohammed preached "Death to the infidels!";
Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34).

Mohammed declared a holy war (Jihad) against infidels;
Christ achieved a holy victory on Calvary's cross (Colossians 2:14-15) and His followers share in that victory (John 16:33).

Mohammed constrained people by conquest;
Christ constrained people by love (2 Corinthians 5:14).

Modern terrorists derive their inspiration from Mohammed and carry out their despicable atrocities in the name of his god;
Christians derive heir inspiration from the One who said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" (Matthew 5:9).

Modern day disciples of Mohammed respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets;
Modern day disciples of Christ are deeply grieved at past atrocities carried out by those who were "Christians" in name only (the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc.).

Many Muslims are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder;
Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder (Romans 12:17-21).

Muhammed said the Koran is authoritative only in Arabic, and only in his dialect;
The Bible is authoritative in many languages around the world, for God knows all things and can inspire His Word in more than one language.

Muhammed hated music;
Jesus and His disciples sang hymns, and the Apostle commanded the Lord's Church to sing. (Matthew 26:30, Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 3:16).

Muhammed allowed that a Mullah, Imam, or Mufti of Islam can be a terrorist and moral animal like Osama bin Laden;
The Bible requires that a leader in the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ must be above reproach, and when this is not true, Christians demand such a fallen leader be removed from leadership. (1 Timothy 3:1-7, 5:19-20).

Islam calls on its followers to observe Five Pillars, while all other aspects of life can be vulgar and not affect the Muslim's prospects in Paradise;
The Bible calls on the Christian to submit to the total change of his life by the Spirit of God-- NO area of life and thought is the choice of the follower. (Romans 12:1-2).

The Muslim looks forward to eternity in Paradise where there will be virgins who are used for eternal perpetual copulation;
The Bible believing Christian looks forward to spending eternity in the presence of Jesus Christ and is delighted with that. (2Corinthians 5:8).

Muhammed said the witness of a woman was half the value of the witness of a man; and Muhammed said a women goes to Paradise because she satisfies her husband sexually;
The Bible teaches that a husband is to love his wife and be willing to die for her. (Ephesians 5:25).

Mohammed called upon his servants to fight;
Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world; if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight . . .but now is My kingdom not from here" (John 18:36).

Mohammed ordered death to the Jews (see A.Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford University Press [1975], p. 369);
Christ ordered that the gospel be preached "to the Jew first" (Romans 1:16).

The Koran says, "Fight in the cause of Allah" (Qu'ran 2.244);
The Bible says, "we wrestle not against flesh and blood" and "the weapons of our warfare are not carnal" (Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 10:4).

The Koran says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (Qu'ran 9.5);
Christ said, "Preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).

The Koran says, "I will inspire terror into the hearts of unbelievers" (Qu'ran 8.12);
God inspires His terror into the hearts of believers (Isaiah 8:13).

The Koran (Qu'ran) is a terrorist manual which condones fighting, conflict, terror, slaughter, and genocide against those who do not accept Islam;
The Bible is a missionary manual to spread the gospel of peace to all the world (Romans 10:15).

Mohammed's Mission was to conquer the world for Allah;
Christ's mission was to conquer sin's penalty and power by substitutionary atonement (2Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 3:18).

Mohammed considered Christ a good prophet;
Christ pronounced Mohammed to be a false prophet (John 10:10; Matthew 24:11).

Mohammed claimed that there was but one God, Allah;
Christ claimed that He was God (John 10:30-31; John 8:58-59; John 5:18; John 14:9).

Islam is geocentric, that is, the whole universe is centered on the Kaaba in the Grand mosque in Mecca in Arabia, and all Muslims pray facing that direction;
Jesus Christ is the center of all Christian worship and fellowship, for He is "in the midst" where his saints meet anywhere on earth. (Matthew 18:20, John 4:22-23).

Mohammed's Tomb: OCCUPIED!
Christ's tomb: EMPTY!

Islam must be received, or you can be killed for rejecting it:
The Faith offered by Jesus Christ is for "whosoever will" to receive, and all men are permitted to reject it. (Revelation 22:17, John 3:16)

Those who leave Islam are killed in most Islamic nations;
Those who leave the true Church of Jesus Christ are allowed to do so without revenge.

Now, is a Muslim submitted to Allah and Islam because he loves Allah? NO!
He dare not leave Islam, and he is loyal purely out of fear.

The true Bible believer is loyal to Jesus Christ purely out of love. (1John 4:18)
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment.
He that feareth is not made perfect in love. (John 4:19) We love him, because he first loved us.

This concept [of love] is 100% alien to Islam-- There is no love in Islam-- Only fear and hate.

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Response comment to me regarding the above.

George Bush and the American government better wise up fast. We are, and have been for more than 1400 years, in a war with Islam. A war that is declared on all non-Muslims by the very tenets of their belief system. We, as Americans, had better wake up to that fact because you can rest assured they will not rest in their war against us.

After traveling extensively in the Middle East and reading a copy of the Koran [Arabic/English] I snuck out of Morocco, I was amazed at the level of hatred and killing ordered by the Koran. I remember thinking at the time that just as the Bible is the inspired word of God, so too is the Koran the inspired word of Satan. Many years have passed since that reading of the Koran and my memory of it waned and I began to think perhaps I had an exaggerated remembrance of the evil it contained. The war discussion and this comparison have jogged my memory to realize it is much worse than I remember. Thanks for the refresher. [name withheld]

The brother who sent the response to me and I had a chance to speak further about the comparison. We discussed the fact that Islam considers women only half as valuable as men. He noted that Jesus Christ was the first "women's libber" when he spoke with the woman at the well.

Mohammed hates women; Jesus Christ loves women.

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[EternalVigilance]

Noonan is a propagandist; one must take her with a grain of salt.

Phooey.

If it's the truth, it's not propaganda---and Peggy Noonan is a truth-teller.

[EternalVigilance]

In Philly, at the GOP convention, I was walking through the media pavilion, and who do I run across?---Peggy Noonan, and Matt Drudge.

Had the great pleasure of visiting with them for awhile, and they were both as genuine as could be...when you see them on TV, that's exactly who and what they are.

Peggy Noonan is one of my heroes, and I am NOT usually given to putting people up on a pedestal.

I love words...I love the truth...and I love it when people use their God-given ability to communicate the truth effectively, in the service of Life and Liberty. Peggy does just that as powerfully as any individual of our generation.

As usual, she is dead on target with this piece.

Pokey, thanks for the post! John, thank you for the ping!!

Regards...EV

[prognostigaator]

Peggy Noonan salt of the earth bump....

[Khepera]

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[JIM O]

Altough I have had concerns about Tony Blair in the past I have been quite happy and proud of his actions and leadership post 9/11.

I am confused as to his recent message, and I wonder if his words and message are being miscommunicated in the Observer. Peggy Noonan seems share this. Has the media correctly reported his comments relative to Iraq. Has any one seen the full text of his speech?

[xJones]

Hey, add me to the Peggy ping list! Great article.

[scan59]

Bump for my lovely wife - babyfreep.

Excellent article. Puts what's going on now in perspective.

Jim Scanlan - Scan59

[scan59]

Bump for my lovely wife - babyfreep.

Excellent article. Puts what's going on now in perspective.

Jim Scanlan - Scan59

[Landru]

This was begun as a Holy War & they mean to end it that way.
Anyone thinking it's anything different will get-it soon enough.

[Pokey78]

All added to the PN ping list.

[Stefan Stackhouse]

Please add me to Peggy Noonan ping list. Thanks

[Pokey78]

Done.

[The Thin Man]

Excellent article. Definitely worth reading.

[miss print]

Amen, brother! miss print

[Marysecretary]

Great post, Pokey. I know in my heart that God raised him for such a time as this. That's why the close race in FL and why the intercessors and prayer warriors in America were told to pray like they had never prayed before. One intercessor said they would have two presidents in this election and he was right: one in electoral vote and one in the popular vote. I felt it was a race in which either evil or righteousness would prevail. God is moving across this nation like a flood. You don't hear much about it unless you are a Christian who reads the material about it, but it's there. Many Christian books are being written about these times.

[texgal]

As George W. Bush took the Oath of Office on the steps of the Capitol last January, his eyes filled with tears. You could see them on TV, and the people around him saw them up close. And I remember thinking: Those tears have meaning, those tears are about something, and I wonder if he knows exactly what. Because sometimes people have presentiments they don't even understand until later.

This literally gave me goosebumps when I remembered our Bible Study from Wednesday night from the Book of Esther . . "for such a time as this. . " God is in the details. It is no mistake that W is our president. He is God's man for this time and for this purpose.