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To: Askel5
It's not just that they're entirely unsupported but your continued speaking thus "as a court reporter" makes you look like some kind of Wanda Mitty of the courtroom. You take dictation and you sticker exhibits. Period

Oh, that's right. I'm just a secretary.

With all due respect to YOU and whatever YOU do, I've been doing this for over 20 years; I'm very good at what I do and have more work than I could possibly do because I AM good at what I do.

I may not have a legal degree, but I've worked with THOUSANDS of attorneys and I know a phoney ambulance chaser when I see one. Larry Klayman, and the people who support HIS kind of "lawyering" are the people that give lawyers a bad name.

If you think Larry's such a great lawyer, that pretty much tells me what your values are in regard to the law -- that you mock it; I'm sure you're one of the ones who, if and when you're ever caught breaking the law, screams about the law and lectures those in the courtroom about how unfair the law and the government is. You're one of the posters on this forum that is continually bashing George W. Bush and his family, insinuating that they are crooks, all the while standing up for a man who is cheating the people who donate to him right in front of your eyes; very telling.

Yes, Askel, some of us are MENIAL LABORERS that you intellectual elite like to look down your nose at. But no matter how you would like to belittle what I do, at least I'm honest enough not to try to pass off Larry Klayma as an upstanding member of the legal community OR life. If you believe that suckering people for money and then not using that money for the purposes he stated it was for, while continuing to issue press release after press release declaring "victories" that fly in the face of facts is an ideal for your life, that's your business.

But those of us in the great unwashed masses still can recognzie a fool when we see one,

220 posted on 11/09/2001 2:30:21 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Hear!!!!! Hear!!!!!!!
222 posted on 11/09/2001 2:34:40 PM PST by deport
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To: Howlin
With all due respect to YOU and whatever YOU do, I've been doing this for over 20 years; I'm very good at what I do and have more work than I could possibly do because I AM good at what I do.

Howlin ... I'm a total grunt who's spent the last 11 years doing my penance for not going to law school by taking legal jobs in between circus jobs.

I have every respect for what you do ... it still doesn't make you the be-all and end-all authority of whether or not Klayman's an ambulance chaser.

I realize you think he's a smarmy shyster. Fine. Everyone's entitled to their personal opinion.

I'm just asking that -- having clearly established your contempt for the man -- you restrict your "expert" opinion to analyses of the facts.

If I came on every thread only to say "I've been hanging around politicians all my adult life and I KNOW George Bush to be a consummate liar", I'm sure you'd have some problems with that.

You'd accuse me of never having met the man in person, being prejudiced against him just because he believes in taking our money to perpetuate use of the unborn like mulch and ... my personal favorite ... just plain HATING the guy.

That's why I avoid those pitfalls as best I can by buttressing my attacks with the FACTS on which I base my opinions.

Your facts seems to be: Larry was okay while he was dogging Clinton but now that he's targeted Republicans and garnered the ire of "OUR" state department (as they protect Janet Reno), he's an ambulance-chasing shyster.

For all I know, you may well be proven correct one day. You won't get there by sliming the guy, though.

I've already handed you what I think is your best strategem for proving Klayman a fraud. Why don't you run with that?

225 posted on 11/09/2001 3:07:39 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Howlin
With all due respect to YOU and whatever YOU do, I've been doing this for over 20 years;

I'm curious to know if you've passed the BAR exam in your state or any state. If not, you are a secretary regardless of how long you've done it or how well you do it.

This much can be said, If Larry Klayman is in front of a judge making an argument he is much more of an expert in law than you are. Get over it, move on.

---max

232 posted on 11/09/2001 7:31:10 PM PST by max61
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