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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#4)
www.sandiegouniontribune.com. ^ | November 7, 2001 | By Dana Littlefield

Posted on 11/07/2001 3:59:48 PM PST by B4Ranch

Solana Beach 'bullying' homeless man, friends say

By Dana Littlefield
STAFF WRITER

November 7, 2001

SOLANA BEACH -- Neighbors and local business owners are rallying behind a homeless man they believe is being treated unfairly by city and county officials.

Robert Thomas Northcut, 49, who has lived on the streets of Solana Beach for more than a decade, was arrested last week on suspicion of trespassing on a city-owned traffic median where a war memorial sits.

Sam Georges, a lawyer from Solana Beach, and Chris Tatem, owner of the Do-It-Yourself Dog Wash in Solana Beach, helped get Northcut out of jail.

Now they and several other residents are working to handle his legal problems, including reuniting him with his dog, which was taken to a county animal shelter when he was arrested.

"The only thing I own is that damn dog," Northcut said Monday while lying in the grass overlooking Fletcher Cove. "He's my dog and he's faithful to me."

Even before Northcut's arrest, neighbors banded together to help him out and bring him food. They even cared for his dog, getting it neutered, vaccinated and registered with the county.

"It's not one person; it's the whole community," said Tatem.

They said that Northcut doesn't panhandle or bother their customers and that he just wants to be left alone with his dog to live outdoors. Putting him inside a building, Georges said, would be like "taking a coyote and chaining it in the garage."

Northcut's German shepherd -- named Thomas Jefferson, or T.J. for short -- remains in custody at the county animal shelter in Carlsbad for lunging and barking at city and transit employees. The dog bit a man in May, according to animal control officials, and city staff members say it threatened several maintenance workers and one department head.

Northcut admitted that his dog has bitten people, but said T.J. was just protecting his master. The dog had been abused before being rescued in Tijuana and nursed back to health by Northcut and Tatem.

"He's a very feisty animal. He's addle-brained," Northcut said. "He's a lot like me. He's all nervous like me."

Members of the county Dangerous Dog Task Force are expected to decide today whether to issue a notice declaring T.J. a public nuisance. If that happens, a hearing will follow, and the dog could be required to wear a muzzle or be fenced off from the public entirely.

Northcut said he and T.J. set up camp at the war memorial after he heard reports on a portable radio of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. For the next few days, Northcut, who said he is a Navy veteran, raised and lowered the U.S. flag on a pole near the memorial to half-staff to honor victims.

"He was taking care of the war memorial," Georges said. "It was his effort to 9/11."

He said that the city is "bullying" Northcut for crushing plants that surround the World War II memorial where Northcut and T.J. had been sleeping, and that the county should return his dog.

"He's just lost without his dog," Georges said. "If the city doesn't want him around, there are definitely more humane ways to get him away from there."

City officials said the traffic median, on Plaza Street and surrounded by cars heading to and from Fletcher Cove, is not a safe spot to hang around. A "No Trespassing" sign is posted near the flagpole, which shares the crowded median with a large fountain and the memorial.

"There really isn't a place for people to congregate," said City Manager Bob Semple. "It wasn't meant to be used for people to gather there."

Northcut has been cited several times for trespassing at other spots in the city.

Jennifer Lynch, the Vista attorney whom Georges asked to appear in court last week on Northcut's behalf, disagreed with Semple.

"To say that there's no trespassing at a war memorial is unconscionable," Lynch said.

A court hearing on Northcut's trespassing charge is scheduled for Nov. 15.

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Copyright 2001 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.


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To: Marine Inspector
Have you checked out this thread?
81 posted on 11/07/2001 6:56:22 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: backhoe
Maybe Fox would do a piece on this.
83 posted on 11/07/2001 6:59:13 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Hey Tonk, I see you are keeping up the good work! :)
85 posted on 11/07/2001 7:01:14 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Mudboy Slim
Both of them are do this "No Charge" for an injured Vet. That pushes them pretty high up the respect ladder in my book.
86 posted on 11/07/2001 7:01:36 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: NAMMARINE
"I simply believe the city was correct - period."

And I believe with all the different "stories" they tell
they are like Clinton saying "I did not have sex with that woman."
87 posted on 11/07/2001 7:02:35 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: NAMMARINE
I just sent an e mail suggesting putting this vicious dog to sleep.

Well! I can see you did not return from Nam without your own set of problems! You should seek some help my friend.

88 posted on 11/07/2001 7:03:06 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: MissAmericanPie
Maybe Fox would do a piece on this.

by glock rocks   11/3/01 6:00 PM Mountain   #134
to Don Myers in reply to #132

hannity, gibson, smith, hume... wouldn't hurt for us to let em all know...

email any and all fox news folks here...

89 posted on 11/07/2001 7:03:16 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: NAMMARINE
"and vicious dogs are put to sleep ALL THE TIME!."

IF this was true then why didn't the animal control do this months ago?
The city stories just don't add up in my book.
90 posted on 11/07/2001 7:05:40 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: NAMMARINE
I think during these troubled times peoples emotions are clouding the issue. This man was squatting on a public monument with a vicious dog, He had an AGENDA of protecting the monument from a TERRORIST ATTACK!. His actions and behavior were BIZZARE and threatning to say the least. I still stand by my statement the police had no choice but to remove him from the area. ALL states conficate dogs that bite people and most destroy them after the second bite.

His AGENDA of protecting the monument, imo, was overstated. He had apparently been at the same monument before the attacks. It is obviously someplace he felt that he would be safe and left alone. He is a Vet. The monument is HIS too!

That dog bite brings up a good question. Why was the dog not taken into custody then? If was, after all, back in April when that happened. Do you think that maybe it is a red herring right now just being used to cover their asses?

93 posted on 11/07/2001 7:08:36 PM PST by MistyCA
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Ok I read all 4 threads.

Being a Vet doesn't make you immune to the law, neither does being mentally disturbed. Sounds like you guys are indulging this guy's delusion of protecting a monument in the traffic median of a public street and your solution is what? To let him and his dog live there? What about the person that was bit and what about the people who are afraid to go to the monument for fear of being bit?

BTW, where's the outrage for this guy camping out at a memorial? Is that showing respect? Does FR have a homeless lobby now?

94 posted on 11/07/2001 7:09:44 PM PST by ICU812
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To: NAMMARINE
So tell me NAMMARINE we would agree that chesty was a Marine's Marine,
but was he a heartless SOB?
tough as nails he was,
but he was also fair and measured.
The one thing that endeared Chesty to his troops and angered the establishment was the way he spoke from the heart.
and in doing so often was at odds with everyone above him.
Why is it then that Chesty earned 5 Navy Crosses and never recieved the Medal of Honor.
Yeah I don't think Chesty would kick a man when he was down, he never did when he was in the Corps.

Funny how you would call me out for huffing and puffing after you stuck you foot in your mouth last nite!

95 posted on 11/07/2001 7:10:30 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
These city stories don't add up for me either. If someone walking in the park was bit in May 2001, something would have happened to TJ back then. Bumping for a reunion for Mr. Northcut and TJ
96 posted on 11/07/2001 7:10:55 PM PST by deadhead
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To: usmcobra
Your post # 76 !!!!! AMEN !!!!!!!!
99 posted on 11/07/2001 7:14:12 PM PST by FallGuy
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