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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#4)
www.sandiegouniontribune.com. ^ | November 7, 2001 | By Dana Littlefield

Posted on 11/07/2001 3:59:48 PM PST by B4Ranch

Solana Beach 'bullying' homeless man, friends say

By Dana Littlefield
STAFF WRITER

November 7, 2001

SOLANA BEACH -- Neighbors and local business owners are rallying behind a homeless man they believe is being treated unfairly by city and county officials.

Robert Thomas Northcut, 49, who has lived on the streets of Solana Beach for more than a decade, was arrested last week on suspicion of trespassing on a city-owned traffic median where a war memorial sits.

Sam Georges, a lawyer from Solana Beach, and Chris Tatem, owner of the Do-It-Yourself Dog Wash in Solana Beach, helped get Northcut out of jail.

Now they and several other residents are working to handle his legal problems, including reuniting him with his dog, which was taken to a county animal shelter when he was arrested.

"The only thing I own is that damn dog," Northcut said Monday while lying in the grass overlooking Fletcher Cove. "He's my dog and he's faithful to me."

Even before Northcut's arrest, neighbors banded together to help him out and bring him food. They even cared for his dog, getting it neutered, vaccinated and registered with the county.

"It's not one person; it's the whole community," said Tatem.

They said that Northcut doesn't panhandle or bother their customers and that he just wants to be left alone with his dog to live outdoors. Putting him inside a building, Georges said, would be like "taking a coyote and chaining it in the garage."

Northcut's German shepherd -- named Thomas Jefferson, or T.J. for short -- remains in custody at the county animal shelter in Carlsbad for lunging and barking at city and transit employees. The dog bit a man in May, according to animal control officials, and city staff members say it threatened several maintenance workers and one department head.

Northcut admitted that his dog has bitten people, but said T.J. was just protecting his master. The dog had been abused before being rescued in Tijuana and nursed back to health by Northcut and Tatem.

"He's a very feisty animal. He's addle-brained," Northcut said. "He's a lot like me. He's all nervous like me."

Members of the county Dangerous Dog Task Force are expected to decide today whether to issue a notice declaring T.J. a public nuisance. If that happens, a hearing will follow, and the dog could be required to wear a muzzle or be fenced off from the public entirely.

Northcut said he and T.J. set up camp at the war memorial after he heard reports on a portable radio of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. For the next few days, Northcut, who said he is a Navy veteran, raised and lowered the U.S. flag on a pole near the memorial to half-staff to honor victims.

"He was taking care of the war memorial," Georges said. "It was his effort to 9/11."

He said that the city is "bullying" Northcut for crushing plants that surround the World War II memorial where Northcut and T.J. had been sleeping, and that the county should return his dog.

"He's just lost without his dog," Georges said. "If the city doesn't want him around, there are definitely more humane ways to get him away from there."

City officials said the traffic median, on Plaza Street and surrounded by cars heading to and from Fletcher Cove, is not a safe spot to hang around. A "No Trespassing" sign is posted near the flagpole, which shares the crowded median with a large fountain and the memorial.

"There really isn't a place for people to congregate," said City Manager Bob Semple. "It wasn't meant to be used for people to gather there."

Northcut has been cited several times for trespassing at other spots in the city.

Jennifer Lynch, the Vista attorney whom Georges asked to appear in court last week on Northcut's behalf, disagreed with Semple.

"To say that there's no trespassing at a war memorial is unconscionable," Lynch said.

A court hearing on Northcut's trespassing charge is scheduled for Nov. 15.

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Copyright 2001 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.


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To: B4Ranch
he needs his dog.

by glock rocks   11/3/01 3:46 PM Mountain   #97
to schmelvin in reply to #91

here's the link again...for those who missed it.

this german shepherd may be the only friend this man knows he has right now

email Mikel Haas, Director of Animal Control, San Diego (covers solana beach area)
addy at bottom of page


61 posted on 11/07/2001 6:17:45 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: janetgreen
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The dog's aggressive manner prevents anyone, particularly children from approaching it. The City has received numerous complaints regarding the dog's aggressive behavior and has forwarded those complaints to San Diego County Animal Control.

This dog used to be a U.S.Border Patrol dog. It has a 'bad attitude' towards Mexicans. Hmm, I wonder why that would occur? Government training maybe.

* In May 2001, the dog bit someone who was walking along the public sidewalk.

See above.

* The dog is being held by San Diego County Animal Control. They will decide whether the dog can be returned to Mr. Northcutt.

email the hell out of these people! Blast 'em.
San Diego County Animal Control e-mail
DACInfo@co.san-diego.ca.us

* Mr. Northcutt frequented the memorial prior to the 9-11 terrorist attacks. There was no observable change in Mr. Northcutt's patterns after September 11.

* Mr. Northcutt was not responsible for raising and lowering the flag at the memorial. City personnel are responsible for the flag.

Of course the City wouldn't want anyone who is not responsible for the job raising or lowering the flag! Imagine a citizen taking a City job upon themselves and putting someone out of work!

* Damage has occurred to public property as a result of Mr. Northcutt residing at various locations in the City.

Yup, some flowers were trampled. Oh Dear me.

* City Code Enforcement personnel were not present nor did they order that Mr. Northcutt be issued a citation.

This I cannot verify one way or the other.

* Mr. Northcutt was asked to leave the memorial site by Sheriff's deputies. Mr. Northcutt refused to leave and insisted on being issued a citation. Sheriff's deputies attempted to persuade Mr. Northcutt to leave the site, however, he continued to insist on receiving a citation.

Possibly so. This I cannot verify one way or the other.

* Mr. Northcutt was NOT arrested for trespassing on City property. In the process of issuing a citation Sheriff's deputies discovered that there were outstanding warrants on Mr. Northcutt. Mr. Northcutt was arrested based on the outstanding warrants.

The outstanding warrants were dismissed for 'time served.' The new citation goes before the Judge on 11/15.

* The City is primarily interested in ensuring that the dog does not harm anyone and that public property is not destroyed.

"Believe it or Not!"

* The City is respectful of all citizens and has made special recognition of Veterans and active military personnel, including its participation in an "Adopt a Ship" program with the USS Fitzgerald DDG-62 and annual Memorial Day and Veterans Day services hosted jointly by the City and its local VFW post. Following the 9-11 attacks, Solana Beach was also one of the first cities in San Diego County to install patriotic banners along a major highway through the City.

Damn good thing too!

63 posted on 11/07/2001 6:31:11 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch; FallGuy
"He is one of us and that's why we are taking care of him."


64 posted on 11/07/2001 6:33:06 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: glock rocks
why can't these elitist bastards let this forgotten soul continue to do what he sees as his duty.

Because he is different. Because he is somewhat antisocial. Because people can't understand his needs. Because NO ONE has walked in his shoes.

66 posted on 11/07/2001 6:37:04 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Tonkin this is one of my favorites.

Thanks

67 posted on 11/07/2001 6:38:08 PM PST by FallGuy
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To: B4Ranch
"e-mail the hell out of these people! Blast 'em"

One thing I learned as a Gunners Mate
is how to keep a steady barrage of shells going to cover my Brothers on the ground.

Thomas M. Campbell, Solana Beach Mayor
635 South Highway 101,
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Phone - (858) 720-2400
Fax - (858) 792-6513/755-1782

Click Here to e-mail Solano Beach City Hall.

San Diego County Animal Control e-mail

DACInfo@co.san-diego.ca.us
68 posted on 11/07/2001 6:39:03 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: NAMMARINE
"I just sent an e mail suggesting putting this vicious dog to sleep."

See post 64, what do you think Chesty Puller would think about what you just did?
69 posted on 11/07/2001 6:41:30 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: NAMMARINE
what if he thought his duty took him to your back yard?? and your children were his enemies????

What if's have no relevance. He is not on private property and he appears to have no enemies.

70 posted on 11/07/2001 6:44:13 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: NAMMARINE
Have you felt like you were all alone, I mean inside of yourself all alone? That the only one you could count on was your dog?

Have you ever felt you wanted just to be left alone, that you knew you were better off just doing things a little differently , some may have called you anti social. But you were just wanting to me in a quiet place and not bother anyone. You fought for your country but just wanted to come home and be free in the freedom you paid for.

Your being awfully tuff on a brother that justs wants to live his life in Freedom and be with his best friend T.J.

This man is not causing problems, he is not a wacked out druggie. He is just in his own place in his mind where he feels safe and his own person, he probably fought to get their too within himself. What harm has he done? None.

I am 100% for Northcut and his dog.We all should be helping our brother not making matters worse for him.

71 posted on 11/07/2001 6:45:45 PM PST by FallGuy
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To: NAMMARINE
and how many e-mails did you send suggesting that he be put to sleep also?
NAMMARINE can you say the same for all the marines that served there with you?
How may of them do you suppose came out of their bunkers and never wanted to go back in?
How many of them have nightmares that the walls were coming down on them?
How many of them do you think you would call deranged and vagrants?
73 posted on 11/07/2001 6:46:53 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: B4Ranch
"Jennifer and another lawyer will be there to defend him."

I proudly harbor a natural antipathy towards Legal Beagle-types, but these bloodsuckers seem like good folks!! Keep us up-to-date, my FRiend!!

FReegards...MUD

75 posted on 11/07/2001 6:49:51 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: NAMMARINE
Then you don't know jack about Chesty!
76 posted on 11/07/2001 6:50:28 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: FallGuy
Excellent post FallGuy!
77 posted on 11/07/2001 6:50:28 PM PST by deadhead
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To: NAMMARINE
"I know what chesty would have thought about some derelect soldier and it aint pretty"

Some how I think Chesty would NOT have suggested someone kill a dog
that belonged to someone who earned a Purple Heart.
80 posted on 11/07/2001 6:56:12 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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