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Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested Guarding War Memorial and American Flag in San Diego(#4)
www.sandiegouniontribune.com. ^ | November 7, 2001 | By Dana Littlefield

Posted on 11/07/2001 3:59:48 PM PST by B4Ranch

Solana Beach 'bullying' homeless man, friends say

By Dana Littlefield
STAFF WRITER

November 7, 2001

SOLANA BEACH -- Neighbors and local business owners are rallying behind a homeless man they believe is being treated unfairly by city and county officials.

Robert Thomas Northcut, 49, who has lived on the streets of Solana Beach for more than a decade, was arrested last week on suspicion of trespassing on a city-owned traffic median where a war memorial sits.

Sam Georges, a lawyer from Solana Beach, and Chris Tatem, owner of the Do-It-Yourself Dog Wash in Solana Beach, helped get Northcut out of jail.

Now they and several other residents are working to handle his legal problems, including reuniting him with his dog, which was taken to a county animal shelter when he was arrested.

"The only thing I own is that damn dog," Northcut said Monday while lying in the grass overlooking Fletcher Cove. "He's my dog and he's faithful to me."

Even before Northcut's arrest, neighbors banded together to help him out and bring him food. They even cared for his dog, getting it neutered, vaccinated and registered with the county.

"It's not one person; it's the whole community," said Tatem.

They said that Northcut doesn't panhandle or bother their customers and that he just wants to be left alone with his dog to live outdoors. Putting him inside a building, Georges said, would be like "taking a coyote and chaining it in the garage."

Northcut's German shepherd -- named Thomas Jefferson, or T.J. for short -- remains in custody at the county animal shelter in Carlsbad for lunging and barking at city and transit employees. The dog bit a man in May, according to animal control officials, and city staff members say it threatened several maintenance workers and one department head.

Northcut admitted that his dog has bitten people, but said T.J. was just protecting his master. The dog had been abused before being rescued in Tijuana and nursed back to health by Northcut and Tatem.

"He's a very feisty animal. He's addle-brained," Northcut said. "He's a lot like me. He's all nervous like me."

Members of the county Dangerous Dog Task Force are expected to decide today whether to issue a notice declaring T.J. a public nuisance. If that happens, a hearing will follow, and the dog could be required to wear a muzzle or be fenced off from the public entirely.

Northcut said he and T.J. set up camp at the war memorial after he heard reports on a portable radio of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. For the next few days, Northcut, who said he is a Navy veteran, raised and lowered the U.S. flag on a pole near the memorial to half-staff to honor victims.

"He was taking care of the war memorial," Georges said. "It was his effort to 9/11."

He said that the city is "bullying" Northcut for crushing plants that surround the World War II memorial where Northcut and T.J. had been sleeping, and that the county should return his dog.

"He's just lost without his dog," Georges said. "If the city doesn't want him around, there are definitely more humane ways to get him away from there."

City officials said the traffic median, on Plaza Street and surrounded by cars heading to and from Fletcher Cove, is not a safe spot to hang around. A "No Trespassing" sign is posted near the flagpole, which shares the crowded median with a large fountain and the memorial.

"There really isn't a place for people to congregate," said City Manager Bob Semple. "It wasn't meant to be used for people to gather there."

Northcut has been cited several times for trespassing at other spots in the city.

Jennifer Lynch, the Vista attorney whom Georges asked to appear in court last week on Northcut's behalf, disagreed with Semple.

"To say that there's no trespassing at a war memorial is unconscionable," Lynch said.

A court hearing on Northcut's trespassing charge is scheduled for Nov. 15.

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Copyright 2001 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.


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To: NAMMARINE
I get the feeling these people wouldn't have put down 'Old Yeller'.
101 posted on 11/07/2001 7:16:24 PM PST by ICU812
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To: NAMMARINE
Namguy, I never served. My father, husband and brother did. My brother came back from Nam on a stretcher and my husband still has nightmares. My uncle was on Normandy Beach on D-Day, and my great uncle came home with a bullet an inch from his heart (WWI). I am just a niece, daughter, wife, sister and mom. I am just thankful for where I live and appreciate what people like you, my family members, Tonk, Northcut and all the other vets have done for me. That's all. Oh yeah, I know how much war hurts because I have seen it in the eyes of the people I know who have been there. Plus, I wake up almost every night to the sound of my husband's nightmares. Plus, I have watched my brother go through three open heart surgeries, the first when he was 20 yrs old and just back from Vietnam. I guess I just feel compassion. Sorry you don't want me as a friend.
102 posted on 11/07/2001 7:18:06 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: NAMMARINE
"BY THE WAY WHAT IS A USM COBRA??"

BY THE WAY, WHAT IS A FNG? (at Nam or FR)

What kind of a marine calls another a fool just because you disagree with him? Would a true Marine do that? An Army grunt questions your actions/words towards another Marine.

103 posted on 11/07/2001 7:18:17 PM PST by Chong
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To: FallGuy
"Have you felt like you were all alone, I mean inside of yourself all alone? That the only one you could count on was your dog? '

sounds like me back in the early 70's
104 posted on 11/07/2001 7:18:24 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I want a copy of this, if you don't mind me doing so?

I've got a list of several 'peace-hicks' that need their tree rattled...

I lost a dear cousin, Special Forces, in 'Nam, and any time that I hear someone bad-mouthing anyone that served in-country....well, let's just say that one of us is in for a whuppin' !!!

105 posted on 11/07/2001 7:18:26 PM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: B4Ranch
"...pretty high up the respect ladder in my book."

Mine, too...MUD

106 posted on 11/07/2001 7:19:30 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: deadhead
Thanks much

I am new here so I have to learn how to rant with manners.LOL

107 posted on 11/07/2001 7:21:07 PM PST by FallGuy
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To: B4Ranch
The current one the City laid on him will be having it's Court date November 15th. Jennifer and another lawyer will be there to defend him.

That should be being held in the new Vista Court House. If I can carve some time out of my schedule that Thursday, maybe I'll drop by. I take it that Ms. Lynch is still with Murchison & Cumming.

108 posted on 11/07/2001 7:22:48 PM PST by SamKeck
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Me too Tonkin long ago, yep me too. Thanks friend.
109 posted on 11/07/2001 7:24:21 PM PST by FallGuy
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To: NAMMARINE
BY THE WAY WHAT IS A USM COBRA??

United States Marines Cobra
An Attack helocopter used by the Marines for a great many years.
Similar to a Huey in design, except it only carries a pilot and a gunner.
First introduced in Viet Nam,
Cobras or snakes as they were called, were the first purpose built attack helocopters!
perhaps that should refresh your memory!

111 posted on 11/07/2001 7:24:38 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: FallGuy
whew!!! thank goodness I finally reached the last post on this thread! Nice meeting you! :)
112 posted on 11/07/2001 7:25:55 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: FallGuy
That was a wonderful rant. Welcome to Free Republic!
113 posted on 11/07/2001 7:26:06 PM PST by deadhead
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To: SamKeck
Thanks! I hope you can carve that time out of your schedule!
114 posted on 11/07/2001 7:27:39 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: overseer5
Perhaps you should be taken from your dog and be put to sleep (heh, heh)
115 posted on 11/07/2001 7:28:28 PM PST by DebtsPaid
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To: NAMMARINE
he NEVER stated he was a Marine

Oh, Lord! I am just a girl and even I know what USM means! I am beginning to think you are just a wannabe

116 posted on 11/07/2001 7:30:10 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: DebtsPaid
Perhaps you should be taken from your dog and be put to sleep (heh, heh)

ROFLMAO.....That was good! LOL

117 posted on 11/07/2001 7:31:34 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: mystomachisturning
Same here.I read your posts on these threads, excellent.
118 posted on 11/07/2001 7:31:42 PM PST by FallGuy
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To: NAMMARINE
"ask them-
answer my questions please."

you know when I busted my butt 16-20 hours a day lobbing 5" shells to protect My Brothers,
I never stopped to ask Charlie what he thought.
No different now.

You, however DO have my respect as you are a Marine and a Brother.
I understand about dogs, I know what they can do.
I understand if a dog is vicious they are destroyed.
And again I question the facts presented by the city
since they keep changing their story to try and salvage the bad PR they are getting.
Why all of a sudden a no trespassing sign and you think they took it down after his arrest.
Why would they not have used existing laws on the books.
119 posted on 11/07/2001 7:33:07 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: FallGuy
Big smiley face to you....(sure wish I could figure out how to post one!) :)
120 posted on 11/07/2001 7:33:11 PM PST by MistyCA
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