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To: Aerial
I’ve covered several news stories about crazy old cranks who live alone in the woods or desert, who threaten local people with guns. Many of them wind up dead, and they wound up dead long before there was a “militia” movement in this country. This type of stuff goes back 450 years in this country. This is an old, old problem among some grumpy depressed old hermits who think they can pull their guns on local farmers and ranchers and order people around at gunpoint.

This shooting didn’t have anything at all to do with income tax. No feds were involved. These were local law enforcement people protecting the neighbors and public from a local crackpot who wanted to shoot someone before he died.

Especially if you are a gun-owning patriot

The guy was not a “patriot”. Patriots don’t aim guns at neighbors and order them around. Crackpots do. Face up to it... your “hero” was a crank.

With the government cover-ups we know about, even if the "authorities" were to tell the truth how would we know it's not just another cover-up?

If you can’t tell the difference between the federal ATF and the local Apache County Arizona boys, then you need to travel around the country and get acquainted with people who live in different areas.

I mean how can you really KNOW anymore?

If you want to know, just ask me.

Maybe he did point a gun at someone's face. Maybe he had good reason to and maybe not. We will never know for sure.

Well, hell, I don’t know for sure that you aren’t Adolf Hitler, but I’ve got a pretty good idea that you’re not. I’ll go with the local sheriff’s deputies rather than the crackpot. When I need help fast, I’m still going to call the Sheriff’s Office at 911, not the local crackpot self-appointed “militia” old-fart cranks.

He didn't pay his taxes but he didn't sell us out to China.

No, he just pointed a gun in his neighbor’s face. If someone does that to me, I’ll call the Sheriff and help them set up an ambush for the jackass.

He didn't have a strong connection to a murdered woman, he wasn't responsible for the drowning of a woman. He doesn't have a "body count list", etc.

We don’t know that. He pointed the gun at a neighbor and shot a deputy in the head. Out here in the West, that is enough to send a guy to the local Boot Hill.

What he was...was an example. An example of what happens if you do not bow down to the state.

HE WAS A DANGEROUS HERMIT CRANK. The feds didn’t get him, the locals did. A lot of the locals might have agreed with what he said on the radio about the feds, but they couldn’t let him go around threatening local citizens with guns. THIS IS THE WEST.

I can't help believing it would never have happened if they would have left the man alone.

They can’t leave a man like that alone when he threatens his neighbors with guns, because he might wind up shooting someone. This happens all the time out here in New Mexico and Arizona. The local Sheriffs and deputies ALWAYS respond to threats against citizens by crackpots. That’s what we pay them for. A hundred and twenty years ago, a lynch mob would have strung him up and burned down his house.

362 posted on 11/06/2001 8:18:00 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Fred25
Dear Fred,

You are promoting the spin.

Good job.

367 posted on 11/06/2001 8:23:21 PM PST by Aerial
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To: Fred25
A hundred and twenty years ago, a lynch mob would have strung him up and burned down his house.
Damn...the lynch mob deputies forgot to fire the house! Must be nice enough for someone to want to buy it. And it isn't even 125 yrs ago.
I'm just being a smart a** Fred...don't get bent!
369 posted on 11/06/2001 8:24:48 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Fred25
The guy was not a “patriot”. Patriots don’t aim guns at neighbors and order them around. Crackpots do. Face up to it... your “hero” was a crank.

I'd like to see hard evidence that that happened. This guy was killed on his own property by 17 Bubbas. The cover story doesn't make sense. He was set up and ambushed.

Some will say he had it coming, others will say that it's good he took one down going.

371 posted on 11/06/2001 8:27:45 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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