Posted on 11/06/2001 11:28:40 AM PST by Jack Barbara
That's gotta hurt.
No one is perfect, or even has a fully adequate handle on all the various political intrigue happenings, NO ONE, but there's always been one constant down through history-political events have NEVER been as they seem at face value in real time, once the magnifying glass of history and hindsight and rationality gets applied. The day after jfk's whack-why "this gomer named lee harvey oswald did it! Burn him! hanging ain't good enough! Then along comes a ruby spider, and it all falls apart.... on and on.
There will always be those who just "know' that the surface level marionette show they are presented with is 'true facts", because they feel a kinship with the puppeteers, sometimes almost a stockholm syndrome kinship.
This is usually true, and heartfelt, and in most cases justified, because there IS some good in government, this is a gimme. The bad part is, they have lost track that this kinship is always-in fact- with puppeteers, string pullers. I chose to particpate in this board to help -partial quote"to root out political fraud and corruption". I don't come here in any way to deliver attaboys or pats on the back to government. That's their jobs, that's what they are supposed to do. It's a supposed default position. When it isn't, or they give a strong appearance of 'doing wrong", that's what I am interested in. That's when I comment. I have no interest in going to a cyber cheerleading camp. To some, that is apparently their job, lead the cheers. To each their own, but I have little interest in that, and less belief, for that matter.
Anyway, back to the puppetry show--- After awhile the strings aren't seen, they are an invisible part of the show. It's Kabuki, you aren't supposed to see the men dressed in dark clothing, so you "don't". It's part of the experience. for some anyway, they so love it, the "invisible" men aren't seen.
Fortunately, 'enough" people remember it's a show, and are able to differentiate between puppeteers and the marionettes, and especially resist BECOMING a marionette. Fun at a show, real dangerous in real life, real dangerous, and misguided. It's embarassing to be a puppet, so like an alcoholic in denial, they hide the bottle, pretend it doesn't exist, and attack their peers who are trying to point out the obvious "elephant in the living room" to them. They can't see it, but all around enough people can. They can be quite violent, and have the ability to justify any actions, any threats, come up with any excuse to further their alcoholism, or in this case, to insisit everyone believe the kabuki show is "real".
Ether situation is "not good". it's bad for the boozer when he can't see he's gone over the line, it's even more bad for the nation when they can't see that their own government goers over the line, or that they actively help support it, become 'enablers". History is rife with "enablers".
Sometimes there's a breakthrough-it's always different-for me, I think I was lucky, back to my first example, my breakthrough came at an early age, JFK, then lee harvey, then jack ruby. Nope, never bought it, absolutely did NOT compute, no way in heck, never been close to a turnip truck to fall off of one. I loved John Wayne movies, but knew they were movies. when government promotes a john wayne movie as 'fact', well, no thankee, won't purchase that ticket to that show. I don't believe hollywood, certainly won't believe the Potomac hollywood, at least not on several key issues the past few decades.
Millions and millions of apparently rational adults did, with JFK, they ate it up, snarfed down the BIG LIE like it was a sack of fries, including -publically at least-the nations "leaders", and it's been fairly easy to see (at least some of) the lies since then.
I sincerely regret the wounding of the deputy out on a job, I regret coopers demise, but I much more regret the very existence of the puppet masters, the ones who invariably orchestrate these events, somewhere down the "orders' food chains, then shift blame around. To them, one puppet killed, another wounded, ho hum, back to something important. To those persons friends and family, tragedies beyond compare.
The string pullers are always busy, they will always pull strings, like the scorpion "it's their nature". Well, like a Man, it is my nature to recognize scorpions, I don't have to believe their tales, or to suffer their stings, when it's obvious what they are. And when a marionette speaks, it's clear to see the strings jerk, and the wooden jaws clack up and down, and to hear the voice from off the stage,and it might even be amusing if it wasn't real life.
Seek out and expose injustice, uncover governmental abuse-yes, I agree, worthy goals, and the absolute duty of anyone who takes the real law as it is written, and the real 'order" of our society-limited and expressly forbidden government, soverignty, independence-that order. Not the goose stepping.
. Cheerlead on the goons or goonish behavior when it shows itself? Absolutely not. Two important differences there when one is discussing 'government". It's not black and white, it's a rainbow of grays, and the detailed hues are important, issue by each detailed issue. It's never just "one or the other".
yeah, that's the reason, that's it, yeah, no doubt about it, i believe it, not
I'm really surprised by the vehemence and persistence of the obvious fed shills on this thread: poohpooh, _jim and fred25 (i would add that all were assigned their present positions under clinton). I've never heard of this Cooper dude but I think it would be worthwhile for everyone to look into what happened carefully. It sounds like the old geezer got ambushed and murdered by thugs masquerading as civilians.
What I learned from this:
1.Don't stop paying the unconstitutional income tax. They will hunt you down and make you pay even if it is unconstitutional. They will put out warrants for your arrest. The constitution is history.
(but rich folks like Mark Rich and powerful people like the Clinton's can do ANYTHING and no one blinks an eye.)
2.Don't stay in your house for 3 and a half years not bothering a soul and expect to get away with it. Especially if you are a gun-owning patriot in a militia.
3. Even if you did not fire first, when you are dead you cannot tell anybody that.
4. With the government cover-ups we know about, even if the "authorities" were to tell the truth how would we know it's not just another cover-up? I mean how can you really KNOW anymore?
Maybe he did point a gun at someone's face. Maybe he had good reason to and maybe not. We will never know for sure. Some may trust the accounts the "authorities" give but I always have a big question mark in my mind. I didn't put it there cover-ups put it there.
One thing seems for sure...the patriots and the lawful militia are going to be made an example of. Not Condit, not Ted Kennedy, not the Cinton's, not people in certain places.
William Cooper may have been wrong about some things, but he certainly knew how the system worked. He didn't pay his taxes but he didn't sell us out to China. He didn't have a strong connection to a murdered woman, he wasn't responsible for the drowning of a woman. He doesn't have a "body count list", etc.
What he was...was an example. An example of what happens if you do not bow down to the state.
It's terrible about the deputy who was shot. I feel very sad for him and his family. Still..I can't help believing it would never have happened if they would have left the man alone. Like they did the elite.
Report should have said he limped towards his house, and possibly, a deputy shot a deputy?
I didn't know Mr. Cooper. I've never spoken to him. I have read some of his material, and have listened to hours of his broadcasts on shortwave, though I have not listened to his show in a while. I have repeatedly heard him say, and took him at his admonition to believe no-one, not even him, unless you could prove it to yourself in your own research.
I have heard him say repeatedly that he was FOR a Constitutional federal government. He has even said on occassion that he would even be FOR a one world government, IF it were based on our Constitution with the restraints on government, and the personal protections and liberties envisioned by this country's Founders.
At times I was shocked at how beligerent, obnoxious, impatient and rude he could be with some callers to his programs. Then I begain to understand a passionate, impatient man with the lazy and stupid.
I do not believe that he was a charlaton, that right or wrong, he sincerely believed in what be believed in.
When I read some of the comments on this thread from those that are obviously ignorant, when I read the comments of our resident POLICE STATISTS on this thread, it sickens me.
RIP William Cooper, and may God be with your wife and children.
All these little towns are out in the middle of nowhere. When I was there a few years ago, I wondered what kept the locals from going nuts. They can’t even pick up TV unless they have a satellite dish. The ones with families have their own relationships to entertain them, but the single retired ones must slowly go bonkers.
Many of the deputies in that area are pro-American, anti-big government, and pro-local control of schools and political matters. They live in this area because they don’t want to raise their kids amid the crime of big cities. These are the best type of police to live among.
Also...notice how the story has changed. First, the deputy shot first, now it is Cooper who shot first.
Who's surprised?
I have not listened to his short wave show in 2 or 3 years because it came on so late here; but now I am sad that I shall never hear him live on radio again.
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