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To: Fred25
Looks like they finally got the details straight along with some "friend's" testimony.

What I learned from this:

1.Don't stop paying the unconstitutional income tax. They will hunt you down and make you pay even if it is unconstitutional. They will put out warrants for your arrest. The constitution is history.

(but rich folks like Mark Rich and powerful people like the Clinton's can do ANYTHING and no one blinks an eye.)

2.Don't stay in your house for 3 and a half years not bothering a soul and expect to get away with it. Especially if you are a gun-owning patriot in a militia.

3. Even if you did not fire first, when you are dead you cannot tell anybody that.

4. With the government cover-ups we know about, even if the "authorities" were to tell the truth how would we know it's not just another cover-up? I mean how can you really KNOW anymore?

Maybe he did point a gun at someone's face. Maybe he had good reason to and maybe not. We will never know for sure. Some may trust the accounts the "authorities" give but I always have a big question mark in my mind. I didn't put it there cover-ups put it there.

One thing seems for sure...the patriots and the lawful militia are going to be made an example of. Not Condit, not Ted Kennedy, not the Cinton's, not people in certain places.

William Cooper may have been wrong about some things, but he certainly knew how the system worked. He didn't pay his taxes but he didn't sell us out to China. He didn't have a strong connection to a murdered woman, he wasn't responsible for the drowning of a woman. He doesn't have a "body count list", etc.

What he was...was an example. An example of what happens if you do not bow down to the state.

It's terrible about the deputy who was shot. I feel very sad for him and his family. Still..I can't help believing it would never have happened if they would have left the man alone. Like they did the elite.

350 posted on 11/06/2001 7:46:07 PM PST by Aerial
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To: Aerial
I’ve covered several news stories about crazy old cranks who live alone in the woods or desert, who threaten local people with guns. Many of them wind up dead, and they wound up dead long before there was a “militia” movement in this country. This type of stuff goes back 450 years in this country. This is an old, old problem among some grumpy depressed old hermits who think they can pull their guns on local farmers and ranchers and order people around at gunpoint.

This shooting didn’t have anything at all to do with income tax. No feds were involved. These were local law enforcement people protecting the neighbors and public from a local crackpot who wanted to shoot someone before he died.

Especially if you are a gun-owning patriot

The guy was not a “patriot”. Patriots don’t aim guns at neighbors and order them around. Crackpots do. Face up to it... your “hero” was a crank.

With the government cover-ups we know about, even if the "authorities" were to tell the truth how would we know it's not just another cover-up?

If you can’t tell the difference between the federal ATF and the local Apache County Arizona boys, then you need to travel around the country and get acquainted with people who live in different areas.

I mean how can you really KNOW anymore?

If you want to know, just ask me.

Maybe he did point a gun at someone's face. Maybe he had good reason to and maybe not. We will never know for sure.

Well, hell, I don’t know for sure that you aren’t Adolf Hitler, but I’ve got a pretty good idea that you’re not. I’ll go with the local sheriff’s deputies rather than the crackpot. When I need help fast, I’m still going to call the Sheriff’s Office at 911, not the local crackpot self-appointed “militia” old-fart cranks.

He didn't pay his taxes but he didn't sell us out to China.

No, he just pointed a gun in his neighbor’s face. If someone does that to me, I’ll call the Sheriff and help them set up an ambush for the jackass.

He didn't have a strong connection to a murdered woman, he wasn't responsible for the drowning of a woman. He doesn't have a "body count list", etc.

We don’t know that. He pointed the gun at a neighbor and shot a deputy in the head. Out here in the West, that is enough to send a guy to the local Boot Hill.

What he was...was an example. An example of what happens if you do not bow down to the state.

HE WAS A DANGEROUS HERMIT CRANK. The feds didn’t get him, the locals did. A lot of the locals might have agreed with what he said on the radio about the feds, but they couldn’t let him go around threatening local citizens with guns. THIS IS THE WEST.

I can't help believing it would never have happened if they would have left the man alone.

They can’t leave a man like that alone when he threatens his neighbors with guns, because he might wind up shooting someone. This happens all the time out here in New Mexico and Arizona. The local Sheriffs and deputies ALWAYS respond to threats against citizens by crackpots. That’s what we pay them for. A hundred and twenty years ago, a lynch mob would have strung him up and burned down his house.

362 posted on 11/06/2001 8:18:00 PM PST by Fred25
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