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To: angelo
My argument may be with Paul, but you are the one repeating his argument here and now.

You're taking yourself too seriously. It wouldn't matter what evidence was produced, you've proved you'll argue with anybody in the bible who refutes your beliefs. (i.e. "Paul was wrong").

You cannot separate out Abraham's faith from his obedience. It was his obedience to God which demonstrated his faith.

You're splitting syntax hairs....

Jews have eternal forgiveness, and always have had, when they repent from sin and turn to God for forgiveness.

Got a passage that supports that ?

Wrong. The Hebrew scriptures repeatedly describe sin as being "washed away", "blotted away", "remembered no more" etc. You have been misinformed.

Talk about me being "wrong", and "misinformed". I can't find any of those terms you placed in quotes in the OT. Got a verse ?

I have a feeling you're flying by the seat of your pants in this exchange. The verses you quoted in no way support your premise. You're confusing temporal with eternal...

172 posted on 11/07/2001 12:04:08 AM PST by Dallas
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To: Dallas
You're taking yourself too seriously. It wouldn't matter what evidence was produced, you've proved you'll argue with anybody in the bible who refutes your beliefs. (i.e. "Paul was wrong").

I'll let you in on a little secret: Paul's letters are not in my bible. Jews do not consider the gospels and epistles to be part of scripture. Do you have a verse for me yet, or can't you find the source of Paul's assertion? Doesn't it bother you at all that you cannot find the reference in Genesis that Paul is supposedly quoting?

You're splitting syntax hairs....

You said that "Abraham was justified solely by his faith", and I provided evidence that this is not accurate. Thus I am 'splitting syntax hairs'. A nice way to try to dismiss my point, but it doesn't address what I said.

Got a passage that supports that

The sacrifice acceptable to God is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. (Psalm 51:17)

Talk about me being "wrong", and "misinformed". I can't find any of those terms you placed in quotes in the OT. Got a verse ?

Uh, I gave you the verses. Did you read them?

The verses you quoted in no way support your premise. You're confusing temporal with eternal...

What makes you think there is any distinction between temporal and eternal in these passages? Sin is sin. It is forgiven or it is not. If it is forgiven, it is wiped away completely (as my citations illustrated). If it is "forgiven...wiped away...not remembered...swept away..." then it is not counted against us either temporally or eternally. What makes you think otherwise?

177 posted on 11/07/2001 4:21:50 AM PST by malakhi
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