Posted on 11/01/2001 3:53:17 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
The scum is being flushed! CLEAN-UP TIME! Enjoy the ride!
Or maybe it was the Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians who saw Serbs as threats to their territories' independence.
Croats, Muslims, and Albanians were killing Serbs from the very beginning - even before the beginnings of these wars. Serbs were being discriminated against and kicked out of their jobs in Croatia, for instance.
That is why the first refugees in these wars were Serbs from Croatia. I believe the grand total number of Serbs who left Croatia during the '90's is over 600,000.
It is Croatia's demographic picture which seems to have been most permanently changed in the recent Balkan wars - its population was 12% Serb in 1991, but now is supposedly only 2-3%.
You really believe this?
Au contraire, mon frere.
Strange, but you Serb-haters 'know' more about Serbs than Serbs themselves...
I'm not a Serb hater, Voj, but I know you better than you seem to know your little nationalist self.
(Package check... still there, whew!)
All you know is the 'facts' you've got from the ICG, HRW and CNN.
All I know is that I just had to look up the ICG to see who they were (don't think I've ever seen anything but a tangential reference to them here on F.R.), do view HRW as a respectable source of information, as they still have the only realistic assessment of Yugoslavian civilian casualties during the War and just published a magnum opus on the Kosovo conflict which will be belittled by all the right people:
Yugoslav arrmy chief-of-staff general-collonel Nebojsa Pavkovic in his statement for FoNet news agency on Sunday, labelled the claims made by organization for protecion of human rights Human Rights Watch related to his involvement in crimes against Kosovo Albanians in 1999 as "idiotic statements of certain persons with complexes."
Ah, yes, how predictably sweet - he'll get his chance to defend himself someday too, I hope.
And lastly, I don't have a Television, and CNN is rather more for the short attention span set - sorry, but you're talking smack again.
I suppose I can look on the bright side and rest easy with the knowledge that you're up in Canada where you can't get yourself into much real trouble, and don't worry, I've been enjoying the ride ever since Milo went to the Hague and started throwing temper tantrums - it's really quite fascinating to reflect that he actually wound up in charge of a European Nation.
It really was high time someone dealt with that crap.
(Given 12% of the population of Croatia, 600,000 is more Serbs than were living there to start with, methinks).
Croatia has census information on the web, but it doesn't have an ethnic breakdown. I'll wait for that to come out, rather than relying on 'supposedly', no offense.
Are you saying that Bin Laden was a major force in the Balkans?
Can you name anything of note directly attributable to Al Quaeda in the Balkans?
"The bin Ladin network is multi-national and has established a worldwide presence. Senior figures in the network are also senior leaders in other Islamic terrorist networks, including those designated by the Department of State as foreign terrorist groups, such as the Egyptian al-Gama'At al-Islamiyya and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad. Bin Ladin and his network seek to provoke a war between Islam and the West and the overthrow of existing Muslim governments, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia."
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"The bin Ladin network supports terrorists in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen, and now Kosovo."
You'll have to ask these guys for details. U.S. State Department (1998) All I know is that your ilk were supporting the terrorists shortly thereafter!
Hooplite, this is rhetorical question, isn't it?
You really have guts to support Bin Laden after 911 ! if you provide your real name, you could be listed as Bin Laden chearleader.
The Muslims also helped the Croats ethnically cleanse the Serbs. They admit it:
http://news.beograd.com/english/articles_and_opinion/misc/david.html
Six years ago, at the height of the conflict in Bosnia, Ms. Decter asked me to translate testimonies given by a group of Bosnian Muslim prisoners that were brought to Boston (Allston) the previous day. They gave a harrowing account about being kept for months in a dark underground military tunnel in Hercegovina. The detainees described the torture and killings they witnessed, and talked about their transfer to the island of Badia and their consequent release to the USA. When they asked me to translate, the American Jewish Congress was not aware that the prisoners were not held in Serbian but in a Croatian detention camp. When did the Serbs put them in prison? the AJC representative repeatedly asked me. They were in a Croatian camp, I kept repeating. They were tortured by the Croats not Serbs. This came to them as a complete surprise.To make the situation more ironic, the former Muslim prisoners described in detail how at the beginning of the conflict, they, together with the Croatians from the area, ethnically cleansed and killed all the Serbs from the town of Chaplina and the surrounding villages. They showed no remorse for their actions, but told me the story embittered by the betrayal of their former Croatian allies. The American Jewish Congress office in Boston never released the tapes, that are probably still in their possession. Since the tapes did not show the Serbs as being solely responsible for the civil war in Bosnia, Sheila Decter must have decided that it is better not to ruin her imaginary account of the conflict in Bosnia.
Maybe the majority of Muslims don’t want anything to do with Sharia, but there are plenty of radical Islamists among the homegrown Muslims. Alija is a Fundamentalist and so is his party.
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm
3. The Radical Islamic Character of the Sarajevo Regime (page 8): Underlying the Clinton Administration's misguided green light policy is a complete misreading of its main beneficiary, the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic. Rather than being the tolerant, multiethnic democratic government it pretends to be, there is clear evidence that the ruling circle of Izetbegovic's party, the Party of Democratic Action (SDA), has long been guided by the principles of radical Islam. This Islamist orientation is illustrated by profiles of three important officials, including President Izetbegovic himself; the progressive Islamization of the Bosnian army, including creation of native Bosnian mujahedin units; credible claims that major atrocities against civilians in Sarajevo were staged for propaganda purposes by operatives of the Izetbegovic government; and suppression of enemies, both non-Muslim and Muslim.
Yes, this is true, UP TO A POINT. Some interdiction has occured in Iran, and yes, Iran is no friend of the Taliban. BUT, the "majority" does not now travel through CIS, but rather still makes it across Iran into Turkey, then on through Kosovo and on to Europe. Lesson: Don't ride any Iranian busses!
Best regards, wonders
I see your point. Literally, maybe not, but in influence, definitely.
...the fighting in the Balkans was never about religion as much as it was a simple power struggle cloaked under a religious vestment.
Is that so uncommon?
Serbia has Muslims living peacefully inside its' borders, but they never posed a political threat to Milosevic, ergo, they were allowed to stay - not so the non-Serbs living in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who threatened Milosevic's power.
I don't know about Croatia or Bosnia, but the separatists in Kosovo were at it long before Milo had any power to threaten.
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