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Bin Laden In Turkey Twice
turkishpress.com ^ | 9/21/01 8:13:29 AM | turkishpress.com

Posted on 10/31/2001 11:42:23 PM PST by Pericles

Bin Laden In Turkey Twice

ISTANBUL, Sept 21 (NTV-MSNBC) - Records show that Osama Bin Laden, the prime suspect in the terrorist attacks against the US last week, visited Turkey in 1996 and 1998. However, the curtain over who he has met with has yet to be lifted. The Saudi dissident bin Laden arrived in Turkey on 28 August 1996 in his private plane and stayed for 33 hours. bin Laden’s plane is reported to have landed at Adana’s Sakirpasa airport in the south of Turkey from the city of Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. The plane flew then to Istanbul and left Turkey the next day. During this trip to Turkey bin Laden was accompanied by one person apart from the crew.

bin Laden paid another visit to Turkey on 17 February 1998, just six months before bombing attacks on the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. This visit also had a stop over in Adana before flying to Istanbul. According to the records of Havas, which provided on the ground services to the plane, apart from bin Laden himself who was listed as “Muhammad Osama” there was one other passenger named El Sawaf.

Although bin Laden was on Interpol’s wanted list at the time of both his visits he has faced no difficulties while in Turkey.

Airways experts say that bin Laden could have flown from Jeddah to Istanbul without his plane having to refuel. One official from the State Airports Management said that it was noteworthy that in both cases bin Laden used the Adana airport and that this could have been a conscious choice.

Adana’s Sakirpasa airport is known for its poor record of security in recent years, with a number of hijackings taking place. The official stated that Adana could have been chosen to avoid passport controls.

Another interesting detail about the visits of bin Laden to Turkey is that the first visit was reported to the Ankara State Airport Management Directorate, as is compulsory for all private planes. The first visit has been recorded in Istanbul among in secret files. Another point was that the documentation for ground services given to the bin Laden plane were not put on computer and was filled by hand with the registration number left blank.

The American newspaper the Wall Street Journal in a news piece citing CIA sources, has claimed that bin Laden held talks with the Iraq intelligence service El Muhaberat.

NTV-MSNBC 9/21/01 8:13:29 AM


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balkans
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21 posted on 11/01/2001 6:38:14 PM PST by a_Turk
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22 posted on 11/01/2001 6:38:58 PM PST by a_Turk
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23 posted on 11/01/2001 6:39:34 PM PST by a_Turk
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24 posted on 11/01/2001 6:40:12 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
For those who may not catch the reference, Bosnasaray is the old Turkish name for Sarajevo.
25 posted on 11/01/2001 6:44:47 PM PST by aristeides
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In a capacity not enjoyable to those laying siege to Bosnasaray

You don't say................
That would have required permission from others, and represents an option that would:
1. Unite the Christian Slavs in the Balkans if not everywhere else.
2. Ultimately paint Turkey and the mujihadeen with the same brush.
This part I will agree with.
26 posted on 11/01/2001 6:46:05 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: Pericles
From the look of him, he's been in and out of a few turkeys, a couple goats, a chicken that crossed the road and one of those ferret things.
27 posted on 11/01/2001 6:48:47 PM PST by leadhead
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To: Pericles
From the look of him, he's been in and out of a few turkeys, a couple goats, a chicken that crossed the road and one of those ferret things.
28 posted on 11/01/2001 6:49:19 PM PST by leadhead
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To: aristeides
It was torture watching those civilians getting hit by snipers every day. How about those lovers laying dead on that bridge. Remember that market attack?

It felt like they were asking us to come and stick up for the poor slobs. They were goosing us. I know it. And it almost worked.
29 posted on 11/01/2001 6:55:32 PM PST by a_Turk
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I remember the market attack. What makes you so sure that it was the Serbs who did it?
30 posted on 11/01/2001 6:59:17 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
I remember the market attack. What makes you so sure that it was the Serbs who did it?
Hmm. Some also say that WTC was self inflicted, or that the Russian apartment bombings were done by the Russian government.

I can see that perspective. It's unrealistic.
31 posted on 11/01/2001 7:04:58 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: aristeides
Does a bear kaka in the woods?
32 posted on 11/01/2001 7:13:23 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: a_Turk
Appreciate the ping. I don't want to choose up Turkey vs. Greece, or rehash past and future Balkans fubar operations just now, and I don't believe Turkey would be apt to sponsor any kind of OBL type activities, although it's certainly possible some private citizens would.
33 posted on 11/01/2001 8:07:14 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: a_Turk; aristeides; Hamiltonian
Remember that market attack? What are a few lives in a Jihad?

SERBS 'NOT GUILTY' OF MASSACRE THE SUNDAY TIMES, 1 OCTOBER 1995, NO.8,927

by Hugh McManners, Defence Correspondent

British ammunition experts serving with the United Nations in Sarajevo have chalenged key "evidence" of the Serbian atrocity that triggered the devastating NATO bombing campaign which turned the tide of the Balkan war.

The experts, who examined the scene of the market massacre in Sarajevo in August, say they found no evidence that Bosnian Serbs had fired the lethal mortar round. They suspected the Bosnian government army might have been responsible.

They say French analysts who also examined the scene agreed with them. But they were overruled by the senior American officer, and the UN issued a statement saying it was beyond any doubt that the Bosnian Serbs were responsible for the blast, in which 37 people were killed and 90 wounded.

The carnage was used as a pretext for NATO's huge air campaign against the Bosnian Serbs, which was followed by extensive battlefield losses and forced the Serbs to the negotiating table.

The British experts were in a UN crater-analysis team that reached the Trznica (Markale) market in Sarajevo 40 minutes after the mortar attack on the morning of August 28. They began their inspection amid a bloody scene of smashed fruit stalls and screaming people.

Five mortars had been fired. The size of craters and metal splinters indicated that they were all of 120mm caliber, probably from towed mortars which are regularly fired into the city...

[...]

They suspected that the perpetrators might easily have been not the Bosnian Serbs but the Bosnian government army, which has been implicated in other incidents such as rocket attack on Sarajevo's television station on June 29, in which five people died and 30 others were injured.

The observations and findings were confirmed by the French, and they returned to base to make their report.

A senior American officer at the United Nations Protection Force (Unprofor) headquaters in Sarajevo dismissed their findings, however, citing a small groove known as a fuse furrow made in the ground by the bomb head.

...Neither British nor French analysis notice such a groove.

By nightfall, the UN announced that the Bosnian Serbs were to blame. Fewer than 48 hours later, the NATO air strikes and artillery campaign began... ...

34 posted on 11/01/2001 9:09:03 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Pericles
Uh, duh, I'll buy that, but first I've gotto stop at that bridge you offered me earlier.
35 posted on 11/01/2001 9:46:21 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Talk to me when you can refute my sources, a_Turk. Anything else is a waste of bandwidth.
36 posted on 11/01/2001 9:59:23 PM PST by Pericles
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To: a_Turk
The bridge at Mostar? Sorry the Croats got to that one.
37 posted on 11/01/2001 10:00:01 PM PST by Pericles
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Pericles, are you telling me that the nice Serbs sat there shooting spitballs at the city for years on end? That the Bosnian Muslim army just kept killing its so called citizens to get us to feel sorry for them? Does that not seem even a little absurd?

The Yugo army just sat there and one private pointed into the city with his finger and saidto the other: Hey Milan! look! they lobbed another round at themselves.

For Goodness sake Pericles. Give me a break.
38 posted on 11/01/2001 10:05:52 PM PST by a_Turk
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No, I was talking about the serbian girl and the muslim guy who both got shot and killed on that bridge in Sarayevo.

Cut me some slack. We were glued to every second of the years of this shit, and you can't even remember it.

How about Srebrenica. Now that was really the pits. Those flaming Dutch just stood there and watched. Why would they fulfil their duty to protect those piddlyass muslims anyway? They're worth so much less than good Dutch boys! So they just let the Serbs kill thousands of people, while watching them like the pussies they were.

That sort of behavior on part of the "international community" (pah!) is a disgrace to humanity. And that Bastard actually used it to inspire his kamikaze.

How can you people be so heartless? Whatever some string of losers did in the past cannot be sufficient reason to allow this today, no! The string of losers takes no end!
39 posted on 11/01/2001 10:15:49 PM PST by a_Turk
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Pericles, are you telling me that the nice Serbs sat there shooting spitballs at the city for years on end? That the Bosnian Muslim army just kept killing its so called citizens to get us to feel sorry for them? No I am not. British ammunition experts and French analysts are telling this. Did you not read it? Or are you not capable of admitting this to yourself? I can get you more sources from UN soldiers that wrote this fact in their memoirs.
40 posted on 11/01/2001 10:23:06 PM PST by Pericles
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