Posted on 10/27/2001 1:21:26 PM PDT by mercy
Schwartzkopf told us that 'Snake Eaters' don't win wars. I've brought this up a few times here on the forum for discussion since the world was turned upside down on 9/11. Despite all you great ret. Spec. Ops. guys who have tried to say Schwartzkopf was 'yesterday's army' I respectfully disagree.
Like Ike warning about the Military-Industrial complex .... General S. was telling us the plain truth. Perhaps this new kind of war will prove to be successful once we establish massive forward bases in Afghanistan and from there, strike out ACROSS and THROUGHOUT the Middle East with terrible and sure .... Swift Death.
Perhaps we SHALL see (someday) Gratifying headlines from all points announcing the mysterious cropping up of groups of very dead terr cells even through Europe. Thus signaling the re-emergence of a brighter day, finally, for the Western World.
But it is absolutely imperitive that we take first things first. We are not going to take even a corner of Afgahanistan for establisment of a massive, massive forward base of operations going at this as we now are. A real war on terrorism cannot be fought unless we have total control of some forward base of operations some where near the M.E. If not Afgahanistan then perhaps half the coast of Pakistan. Regardless, in order to insure this we must have a REAL war Against the Taliban and other, new fighters now coming from far and wide. IF not to establish a base then merely because destroying the Taliban is what we said we were going to do. The US must start sticking to it's word as a FIRST step toward defeating Islamist world wide.
Unless we can get Schwartzkopf to come out of retirement or 'miracle of miracles' there's another Schwartzkopf hiding just under the joint chiefs level ...to fight an actual war with hundreds of thousands of infantry and thousands of tanks, Bush will continue to lose this war.
I doubt that there ARE any new Schwartzkopfs. Clintoon decimated the General Staff. Thus the laying of the 'Get Out of Jail Free Card'. The excuse to prosecute a Viet Nam style police action and keep the news cameras completely out of it. Thus never allowing proof of the ineffectiveness of such a losing propositonal excuse for a war.
It won't work. This policy, already plainly evident in this so called war, will strenghthen and embolden the Islamist terrs world wide and we are guaranteed massive Islamist strikes here at home. If the American people are not moral enough to insist on a real war when nothing else will do .... the Islamists will do it for us. And then we'll really be playing 'catch-up'. Same ole same ole.
What a lovely person you turned out to be!
Sons and daughters.... fathers, uncles, friends, sweethearts ... have taken to the ground, sea and sky ... to preserve your right to be this insulting.
There isn't another Country in the world that allows insensitive idiots like you to spew ... and still be deemed viable.
God BLESS America!!!
Go back and read her post ..... with your heart as well as your eyes
I calls 'em as I sees 'em. You all belong in the looney bin. Good lord, is this what Free Republic has become? A psychotherapy session?
ooooooooooooH. I'm nominating you for quote of the month.
It says very clearly on the posting page "NO PERSONAL ATTACKS." Calling everyone on the thread a psycho, regardless of their position as they debate the issue, definitely fall into the category of personal attacks.
I guess it depends on your frame of reference. In this case, I would argue that it falls into the category of "accurate analysis."
This is the first intelligent thread I've seen in months. I must be dreaming.
...or on LSD.
You may be but not the rest of us
Would you like to elaborate on this one?. Just how will this "war" be any different than any other war in application or results?. This is almost as big of a crock as the "we haven't declared war because of the insurance liabilities" excuse.
---max
Hey, I'm a web surfer, I read, and this internet thing has lots of great maps and news articles. For the march on Kabul theory and the Turks, see article at this ol' thread of mine:
I must say that the Turkish english press on the web that I have seen afterward seems more to indicate a Turkish training of Afghan resistance fighters as the scope of Turkey's coming involvement, plus hosting of King Zahir conferences. But there aren't many english on-line sources. And I have noticed the main Turkish paper, Hurriyet, at my local store has been plastered with pictures of Kamal Ataturk! Whipping up the ol' pan-Turkism, methinks. Most northern Afghanis are Turkish.
Also, reading a lot of other papers in the region are talks of cooperation between Central Asian states and Turkey. The elite Pakistani press is full of commentaries talking about the new cooperation between the two countries, even mentioning that Pakistan will receive benefits in "Central Asia." I think the deal is we are going to open up the Central Asian oil fields, Turkey to help develop, Putin on board, OPEC in trouble.
I highly recommend reading the Paki, Indian, and Turkish press--it's full of interesting diplomatic backstage stories and less anthrax hysteria.
How DOES one make a submission for Quote of The Week. I went over there to that overly graphic slow loading site and could find absolutely no directions for submitting.
Nomination for Quote of the Week.
I don't think he's listening and
... Like you would know??? LOL
By the way I've mashed the abuse button you as have others I'm sure. Your days are numbered.
To all,
I encourage you all to turn Zviadist in for abuse. It is only a disruptor at this point. Startin to sound like A+Bert.
By the way I've mashed the abuse button you as have others I'm sure. Your days are numbered.
Then you are beneath contempt and do not belong on Free Republic. Do you have any concept of what it means to be conservative? To be self-governing? No not need to run to the secret police when you don't like someone? You are going to run to the authorities because you feel bad that someone calls your VANITY post ridiculous and a waste of time? I should have called abuse on you for abusing this website with useless VANITY posts, like your completely psychotic rant yesterday about how you were afraid to go outside. If anyone is ABUSING this forum it is you. I am just calling you on it. I don't need to go crying to JimRob or his deputies, however. I am here because I am an adult and can take care of myself. But go ahead, go whining and crying to the authorities. Oh poor you, someone doesn't like your thread and you feel abused. TOUGH.
I'm saving your post for later use, if you don't mind. No sense reinventing the wheel, since this keeps coming up and since so many seem to have such short memories.
-penny
Suicide helicopter assault squads. A coulpe a dozen expendables like me, in an old chopper, fake crash in a defendable mountain position. Enough supplies to hold out just long enough to draw a large number taliban flies, then a sufficient number of FAE's to jellify us all.
I'll take my chances on whether I wind up in heaven or hell.
DT
Bwaaaaaaaa...He said something mean to me...Bwaaaaaaaa...Let's all get together and tell the principal...can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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