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To: kattracks
"Daschle represents the government, and the government is what the right-wing groups hate," a source said. "By contrast, the media is something they use to get publicity and spread fear."
This whole article is BS, and this is the quote that gives it away.

This anonymous quote shows a bias and an agenda on the part of whoever the source is.

The anarchists who trashed Seattle and rioted in Philly and just recently protested (but behaved) in DC are far-left, not far right.

Marxists hate our government, and are looking for a vanguard to spur the people to overthrow our government.

I will bet anyone a six-pack of brew that IF it turns out to be a domestic group being responsible, it will turn out to be a far-left group.

Any takers?

26 posted on 10/25/2001 3:05:35 AM PDT by Hugh Akston
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To: Hugh Akston
"Daschle represents the government, and the government is what the right-wing groups hate," a source said. "By contrast, the media is something they use to get publicity and spread fear."

You're right about this statement. If this were really a 'far right' anti-government group, Daschle would not be the one who comes to mind when such a person thinks of 'government.' Far-right groups aren't any more fond of Bush that the far left is, so Bush would be more 'reprisentative' of government than Daschle. Dick Gebhardt would come to mind before Daschle. Condit would too, given that he was 'soup of the day' for so long. Lieberman, for sure. A group in California would surely have gripes against their own congressment first.

In the media, Dan Rather would have been #1 on the list of anthrax recipients, not a tabloid down in Florida. Why target a tabloid? Why this one in particular?

The Tabloid's only claim to fame was making fun of Osama's pecker size, and having an editor whose wife had rented an apartment to some middle eastern terrorists, and the victim of the anthrax lived not far from where the terrorists went to train. All in a state where terrorists spent a good deal of time, and a state even Osama himself noted when he commented on our election fiasco.

Did the Tabloid make fun of Pat Buchanan or something?

Sheesh, even if it is far right- if you go far enough right you find yourself squarely on the left. The rhetoric is much the same.

And the quote about Daschle sure does sound like it is coming straight from the OLD White House spin machine.

34 posted on 10/25/2001 3:23:54 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Hugh Akston
I agree, Uni Bomber comes to mind, also, I didn't notice CNN getting any letters.

They are well liked by both the left and Arab countries.

No self respecting right wing group would have skipped CNN, IMHO.

57 posted on 10/25/2001 4:10:01 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry
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To: Hugh Akston
Not I, said the first little pig.

Tom Daschle, NOT the government, represents everything anyone should dislike about elected officials. His voting record vis-a-vis the preservation of the Constitiution of the United States of America, his oath of office vis-a-vis the same, and his shrill and unceasing party party party before country attitude up to sept 11, 2001 is enough to anger anyone with any sense of right, morality, truth, love of country, and the desire to support and defend that which the Founders gave us at such great personal risk.

This exercise in pointing fingers at something that does not exist, is more of the same old stuff perpetrated by various tax payer supported right wing hate groups, one of which for example might be named "Southern Poverty Law Center". To digest this stupidity, or the attempt at proving it isn't and "we" are, one need only break down the name into it's various parts, to know without a shadow of doubt, that it is not "SOUTHERN", has nothing to do with "POVERTY", certainly not its own anyway, and this is not the "LAW CENTER" you would chose to represent anything slightly right of center.

And now for the paragraph on right wing hate groups which I believe do not exist. It is a myth, a trojan horse, a paper tiger, a strawman. If OKC killed or put a damper on the militia movement because of who the majority "thinks" did the deed, then just a little more of the same "thinking" should pretty much take care of any group that remains with any loyalty towards government as it should be, with a foundation in the Founding Documents, and government as it has become, can get on with the destruction of that which it fears. I have said it many times here and elsewhere, militia groups do not hate the government of the United States of America. They raise the voice of vigilance, and concern for the direction their government is being taken by elected, and unelected officials. The passage of the latest terrorism bill might be an example of more of the same, except for the sunset clause four years hence.

60 posted on 10/25/2001 4:15:30 AM PDT by wita
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To: Hugh Akston
Hugh, I'm sending this to you since we have spoken on the phone and I know you to be a reasonable person.

I certainly hope that if it is domestic, it is a left-wing group. Unfortunately, a number of clues point in the other direction.

Foremost is the issue of targets. The anthrax letters were sent to left-wing media outlets and a leading Democrat. There is belief that the letter that infected the House side of the capitoil went to Gephardt. There have been no infections at DOD, CIA, FBI, State, Fort Bragg, etc., the places left-wingers might send such letters.

All the talk about weaponized anthrax or the source of the bacteria is premature. There is not enough known yet to pinpoint a specific source. That may come later or if it's known now, it's not being released to public. If there was ever a case where the public did not have a need to know all details immediately, inorder to not tell the perps as well, this is it.

Of course, this target selection could all be disinformatziatta by perps to derail investigation, or could be media leaks designed to confuse perps.

The reality here speaks to the true duty of an intelligence officer. It's his (or her, how PC I am this AM) to tell the commander, not what the enemy will do but what the enemy is capable of doing. Unfortunately, a large range of groups, left and right, domestic and foreign, including some well known right-wing groups, are capable of this.

As much as some FReepers hate the FBI, I'd rather have them chasing the perp than Michael Rivero or A-Bert!!!

74 posted on 10/25/2001 4:51:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
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To: Hugh Akston
Marxists hate our government, and are looking for a vanguard to spur the people to overthrow our government.

I will bet anyone a six-pack of brew that IF it turns out to be a domestic group being responsible, it will turn out to be a far-left group.

Any takers?

Personally I think this is all WTC related but I'm in for a 6 pack if it turns out to be domestic. Guinness if I'm right.

80 posted on 10/25/2001 4:59:17 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Hugh Akston
I will bet anyone a six-pack of brew that IF it turns out to be a domestic group being responsible, it will turn out to be a far-left group.

Any takers?

I totally agree with you that this entire article is B.S. Personally, considering that the New York Post is hardly the most liberal newspaper in the world, I would tend to think of it more as "disinformation" than anything else.

To be completely fair though, I don't believe that these letters are the work of left-wing kooks any more than they're the work of right-wing kooks. It is definitely possible that there may be one or two "copycat letters" that were sent by Americans, but the inhaled anthrax letters that have killed three people so far are almost unquestionably linked to Middle Eastern terrorists.

137 posted on 10/25/2001 6:54:04 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Hugh Akston
Re: #26. Frankly, when I first heard the report of anthrax being sent to leftist media personnel, leftist government officials etc. my initial reaction was to associate the act with the left.

You know that Daschle has gotten more airtime since he was sent the letter containing anthrax than he has since the takeover of the Senate. The left fears not being in the spotlight, and although these folks have shown restraint in view of our President's immense popularity, the sniping and obstructionism is beginning again.

The left loves to be portrayed as the victim. The convincing evidence of leftist involvement IMHO was when 90 or 120 un-planned parenthood centers reported they received suspicious letters, ON THE SAME DAY.

The author should also look at the history of the terrorism movement and see that mideastern terrorists revel in admitting to the world that they were responsible for a horrendous act. I still believe these acts were perpetrated by mideast terrorists.

My wife just told me that a "source" claims that the handwriting on the letters is definitely American. Wow, Dion Warwick would love this guy. How can you tell the difference between my handwriting and that of a foreign terrorist who has studied English in his/her homeland, attended college in the U.S. and who has lived and worked in our country for years?

147 posted on 10/25/2001 7:01:53 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: Hugh Akston
"I will bet anyone a six-pack of brew that IF it turns out to be a domestic group being responsible, it will turn out to be a far-left group."

I dont think they will let it be a far left group. Remember the terrorist bill? It gives the government the authority to do searches without prior approval from anyone. I think they are going after the militia groups now. I think they will be branded as terrorists, and they will have no civil rights when they stand in front of their accusers.I have never joined a militia group, and I have never advocated anyone joining one. That is like asking to get a head rubbing from your local government agencies. The government knows who these people are.

196 posted on 10/25/2001 8:48:13 AM PDT by Don Myers
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