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China secretly shipping Cuba arms - Thread #3
Washington Times ^ | 6/12/01 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 10/24/2001 6:51:05 PM PDT by ChaseR

China is shipping arms and explosives to Cuba in a sign of increased military cooperation between Beijing and Havana, The Washington Times has learned. At least three arms shipments were traced from China to the Cuban port of Mariel over the past several months. All the arms were aboard vessels belonging to the state-owned China Ocean Shipping Co. (Cosco), according to U.S. intelligence officials.


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1 posted on 10/24/2001 6:51:05 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; LarryLied; backhoe; Snow Bunny; goldilucky; Landru; Ragtime Cowgirl; flamefront...
Thread #2
2 posted on 10/24/2001 6:54:53 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
Not surprised by this one and yet the majority of Republican Senators and Congressman fully support PNTR with China. How much more stupid can we be?
3 posted on 10/24/2001 6:55:22 PM PDT by Rebeckie
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To: HoweverComma; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; KLT; Snow Bunny; Landru; backhoe; stand watie; katykelly
HoweverComma tries to put one past the readers, but to no avail:
"First, nuclear weapons are stored in extremely high-security facilities. These facilities are easily seen from orbit..."

Ahhh, not so fast HoweverComma. You conveniently left out the fact that all the Communist Chinese have/can -simply dock a few of their COSCO container ships at one of the Hutchison-Whampoa piers - and leave containers with short-range and medium-range nukes - down in the holds of their ships. (with the Communist Chinese now holding a 50 year lease to run the canal - it won't be unusual for COSCO ships to come and go/stay docked - for months at a time - huh Comma!)
Nice try Comma, but no cigar.

4 posted on 10/24/2001 7:00:05 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: Rebeckie; miss print; MissAmericanPie; Libertina; BeAChooser; ChadGore; reformjoy
"Not surprised by this one and yet the majority of Republican Senators and Congressman fully support PNTR with China."

Yes, and that leaves you becka...and me - and everyone else to - continue to bump this foreboding article.

5 posted on 10/24/2001 7:02:13 PM PDT by ChaseR
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GW has said: "He will lead, oversee and coordinate a comprehensive national strategy to safeguard our country against terrorism and respond to any attacks that may come. These measures are essential. The only way to defeat terrorism as a threat to our way of life is to stop it, eliminate it and destroy it where it grows."

Now that our government has built a coalition to annihilate terrorism, and since Cuba is only 90 miles from the US, it should start with Castro and his tyrannical regime.

6 posted on 10/24/2001 8:27:04 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: ChaseR
Why in hell does Cuba (Cuber, for those of you Rush Limbaugh fans) need a low-tech Russian listening post when they can get high-tech Chinese weapons instead?
7 posted on 10/24/2001 8:32:21 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: ChaseR
Thanks for the flag, and for keeping this bumped. Who needs to see it is our Congressmen and our President.
8 posted on 10/24/2001 9:00:23 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: ChaseR
Thanks for the bump. Is the whole world getting ready for something?
9 posted on 10/24/2001 9:25:40 PM PDT by reformjoy
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To: ChaseR
The Chinese can spot any nuclear weapon we have stored because thanks to Clinton, we gave them the top secret technology.
10 posted on 10/24/2001 9:55:21 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ChaseR
One should see all the Cosco Sea-Land containers on the trains leaving South Texas Ports for parts inland.... It makes me very unhappy. "C O S C O" still spells CHI COM to me.
11 posted on 10/24/2001 10:50:50 PM PDT by Yougottabekidding
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To: Yougottabekidding; Snow Bunny; goldilucky; Libertina; Lady In Blue; miss print; Notin04...
"One should see all the Cosco Sea-Land containers on the trains leaving South Texas Ports for parts inland...."

Yep. Everywhere...could be foreboding in these times.

12 posted on 10/25/2001 5:24:36 AM PDT by ChaseR
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"Cuba is only 90 miles from the US, it should start with Castro and his tyrannical regime."

Yes, it's time to unleash the hounds on all countries supporting terrorism. ALL of them. (and Syria is right in there with the worst of 'em!)

13 posted on 10/25/2001 5:26:36 AM PDT by ChaseR
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This is an ambush and I hope we're a step ahead of the whole lot of them. Oct. 16 Russia pulls out of Cuba after 40 years, all year China has been shipping arms into Cuba... Saudi, Syria, et al...I don't even trust Russia-- wolves in sheeps clothing.. Close ranks and defend our homeland.

This has been posted before but should be read, or at least skimmed. page 145 illustrates a portion of our current situation. http://www.terrorism.com/documents/unrestricted.pdf

14 posted on 10/25/2001 6:22:24 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
couldn't get the link to work...probably my plebeian computer
15 posted on 10/25/2001 7:43:19 AM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR
That link is for adobe acrobat--this LONG link is text only. Maybe this will work for you http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3c53hxI_I5Y:www.terrorism.com/documents/unrestricted.pdf+terrorism+documents+unrestricted&hl=en&client=googlet
16 posted on 10/25/2001 8:36:11 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: ChaseR
Have to post the Trie info. Sigh.
Trie->China->Clinton->anthrax? Feb. 2000

In the course of 17 secret Trie interviews with the FBI in 1999 the Clinton confidant revealed an elaborate and illegal scheme to funnel large sums into Clinton-Gore campaign coffers and the president’s legal-defense fund. He also confessed to orchestrating the sale of a 500-liter (130-gallon) medical fermentation device to a pharmaceutical plant in China suspected of manufacturing chemical and biological agents for military purposes.


Peter Leitner, a senior Defense Department licensing analyst who specializes in export controls of dual-use technology, has reviewed Insight’s copies of the confidential FBI interviews with Trie. Leitner says the transfer of the highly sophisticated pharmaceutical-grade fermenting machine poses significant risks to U.S. security at home and abroad if used to make advanced germ-warfare products such as anthrax and botulism.
The buyer was Zhang Jiaming, director of the Changchun Biological Products Institute. Leitner says the FBI also should have been concerned with the likely participation in the deal of Peter Fu, a toxicology expert at the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s research facility on the grounds of the Pine Bluff military arsenal in Arkansas. The arsenal originally was established to produce and store biological weapons, Leitner says.
17 posted on 10/25/2001 9:57:38 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: ChaseR
Actually, seeing a ship tied up at the same place for months on end is EXTREMELY suspicious. Ships that behave that atypically become the subject of a LOT of intel-gathering efforts. And not having a very strong (and, hence, very VISIBLE) security presence near the ship still makes theft of the weapons very possible.

So, nice try on your part, but you've still managed to not explain this properly.

18 posted on 10/25/2001 6:36:49 PM PDT by HoweverComma
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Thanks ER/ bttt
19 posted on 10/25/2001 6:38:40 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: HoweverComma
"Actually, seeing a ship tied up at the same place for months on end is EXTREMELY suspicious."

O. K. - you're grasping jake - I'll amend my above to read - dock for a couple weeks at a time - (for any reason what-so-ever) - from mechanical problems - to new paint - to two weeks liberty for a tired crew - to change out crew - whatever. (and then send that particular ship out to sea/replace with another/and so on - - Huh......

20 posted on 10/25/2001 6:44:30 PM PDT by ChaseR
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